As can be seen by my signature information, it’s time for a new TV.I will likely be getting a new or late model used ¾-ton or maybe a SRW one-ton diesel truck.Since Toyota doesn’t make a ¾ ton diesel, I will be purchasing from one of the big three US manufacturers.
I really don’t want to discuss ¾ versus 1-ton or SRW versus DRW.I’m more interested in what the general consensus is regarding long-term reliability. I also don’t want to discuss value (reliability versus cost). Since I hope to be driving this vehicle for the next 10 to 13 years I’m willing to pay more up front for better reliability.
I understand that because of the many variables and emotions involved, there is not going to be one neat answer but I just want to get a feel for what this community of TV drivers think.
Steve
LarryW21 said
03:39 PM May 3, 2019
I believe all the Big Three trucks are reliable. Therefore I’d pick on styling, price, availability etc.
-- Edited by LarryW21 on Friday 3rd of May 2019 07:07:08 PM
MAYBE2021 said
06:09 PM May 3, 2019
Yes Larry, that's been my gut feeling. If one had a serious reliability problem you would hear about it.
How do you like your Tahoe?
LarryW21 said
07:10 PM May 3, 2019
Very much. My third one! ‘01, ‘07 and ‘15. Measurable improvement each time in power and comfort.
Acheron2010 said
12:34 PM May 4, 2019
When it was my time, I used CarMax. I spent about a month searching the website for the 3/4 ton models of all the manufacturers, finally found the one I wanted, spiffed up my trade-in, and drove away a really nice gently used, low-mileage 2015 3/4 ton Silverado, with a nice warranty. It does everything I wanted and was a good deal.
Anecdotally, going back and forth across the US this past year, I see many, many Fords. The new Dodges with integrated tool boxes in the back are the bomb. And that new GMC tailgate makes me cry every time I have to make the great leap into the back of my truck.
RonC said
09:56 PM May 4, 2019
So you aren’t talking about an OLED television?
As has been mentioned, the big 3 have made great strides and are on par with each other. Towing involves “pulling”, “carrying” and “stopping”. Generally speaking a diesel excels in pulling and stopping (due to exhaust brakes). The 3/4 ton vs 1 ton thing involves carrying capacity. Pick the right truck for your needs, and select the best “deal” on the right truck ... it’s that easy, IMO.
-- Edited by RonC on Saturday 4th of May 2019 09:58:04 PM
MAYBE2021 said
10:24 AM May 6, 2019
"So you aren’t talking about an OLED television?"
Okay Ron, Look at what category this was posted under; Tow Vehicles, not electronics.
I totally agree with the sentiment that getting what I need is more important than brand.
"And that new GMC tailgate makes me cry every time I have to make the great leap into the back of my truck."
Me too. My knees can't take that big step any longer.
I'll keep you all updated on what I decide.
Thanks for the input,
Steve
BiggarView said
08:05 PM May 6, 2019
You know they make tailgate ladders or steps. Several different styles. $40 upto $250 or more.
We just got this for our truck...
Beech Lane tailgate ladder (amazon) $49.
easy install, easy in and out of the bed.
-- Edited by BiggarView on Monday 6th of May 2019 08:14:30 PM
MAYBE2021 said
07:12 PM Nov 13, 2019
Well I pondered this for almost six months and finally made a decision.
About three months ago I stopped by the local Ford dealer and looked at their 2019 F250 diesel 4wd trucks and really liked what I saw but I had a nagging doubt that a ¾ ton would meet my future needs.I didn’t want to worry about how much stuff I could put in the truck bed plus carrying a full fresh water tank, grey water tank, generator etc. without getting close to the pay load limit.When I asked the sales person about a SRW 1-ton he said the only ones in stock had 8’ beds and he did not sound optimistic about finding any with the 6.5’ beds. For my needs (wants) an 8’ bed plus the crew cab was too long so I decided to wait and keep looking.I’m glad we waited.
A little over two weeks ago my wife and I checked the Chevy dealership and they had two (one white, one silver)2019 Z71 3500 SRW 4WD diesel trucks with 6.5’ beds; my ideal truck.Got prices from other Chevy dealers but no one was offering a better deal, so we purchased the silver one.
I think I found the truck that will meet my towing and daily driving needs, and what’s really important- the DW likes it and hasn’t complained about the solid ride.
Some of the specs: Duramax 6.6L turbo diesel, Allison 6 speed transmission, 3.73 rear axle ratio, 3,927lbs max PL (door sticker says 3600 passenger plus cargo) and 13,000 lbs conventional towing.
Thanks for your input; It helped me keep an open mind and not zero in on one manufacturer.
Another step closer to full-time RVing.
Steve
Dave MW said
08:46 AM Nov 14, 2019
IMHO, all three US manufacturer build darn good trucks. I think the secret to reliability over time of any of them is to operate within the concept of "intended use". Stress and heat damage is cumulative. That is, it adds up over time and use. Watch the engine and transmission temperatures while pulling a hill. If you're concerned that you're getting hotter than you should be, it doesn't hurt to pull over and let the beast cool down. Don't wait for the computer to call your attention to a pending disaster. Go down the hill at a speed that allows you to not overheat the wheel brakes. When parking, try to park facing downhill. That saves overstressing the drivetrain as you get started again. And don't let anyone "push" you faster than your operating "sweet spot". And that included the drivers "sweet spot".
Keeping these points in mind will go a long way to help with the reliability question of any vehicle, IMHO. And the really huge benefit is, it's safer.
MAYBE2021 said
11:18 AM Nov 14, 2019
..don't let anyone "push" you faster than your operating "sweet spot"
I totally agree. Unfortunately, I have let myself fall into that trap several times. Nice reminder.
Steve
LarryW21 said
01:47 PM Nov 14, 2019
I get other drivers trying to push be all the time, Dave,...and I stay at 55 mph or less regardless, pull over when I can and let them endanger themselves and, unfortunately, others.
As can be seen by my signature information, it’s time for a new TV. I will likely be getting a new or late model used ¾-ton or maybe a SRW one-ton diesel truck. Since Toyota doesn’t make a ¾ ton diesel, I will be purchasing from one of the big three US manufacturers.
I really don’t want to discuss ¾ versus 1-ton or SRW versus DRW. I’m more interested in what the general consensus is regarding long-term reliability. I also don’t want to discuss value (reliability versus cost). Since I hope to be driving this vehicle for the next 10 to 13 years I’m willing to pay more up front for better reliability.
I understand that because of the many variables and emotions involved, there is not going to be one neat answer but I just want to get a feel for what this community of TV drivers think.
Steve
I believe all the Big Three trucks are reliable. Therefore I’d pick on styling, price, availability etc.
-- Edited by LarryW21 on Friday 3rd of May 2019 07:07:08 PM
Yes Larry, that's been my gut feeling. If one had a serious reliability problem you would hear about it.
How do you like your Tahoe?
Anecdotally, going back and forth across the US this past year, I see many, many Fords. The new Dodges with integrated tool boxes in the back are the bomb. And that new GMC tailgate makes me cry every time I have to make the great leap into the back of my truck.
So you aren’t talking about an OLED television?
As has been mentioned, the big 3 have made great strides and are on par with each other. Towing involves “pulling”, “carrying” and “stopping”. Generally speaking a diesel excels in pulling and stopping (due to exhaust brakes). The 3/4 ton vs 1 ton thing involves carrying capacity. Pick the right truck for your needs, and select the best “deal” on the right truck ... it’s that easy, IMO.
-- Edited by RonC on Saturday 4th of May 2019 09:58:04 PM
"So you aren’t talking about an OLED television?"
Okay Ron, Look at what category this was posted under; Tow Vehicles, not electronics.
I totally agree with the sentiment that getting what I need is more important than brand.
"And that new GMC tailgate makes me cry every time I have to make the great leap into the back of my truck."
Me too. My knees can't take that big step any longer.
I'll keep you all updated on what I decide.
Thanks for the input,
Steve
You know they make tailgate ladders or steps. Several different styles. $40 upto $250 or more.
We just got this for our truck...
Beech Lane tailgate ladder (amazon) $49.
easy install, easy in and out of the bed.
-- Edited by BiggarView on Monday 6th of May 2019 08:14:30 PM
Well I pondered this for almost six months and finally made a decision.
About three months ago I stopped by the local Ford dealer and looked at their 2019 F250 diesel 4wd trucks and really liked what I saw but I had a nagging doubt that a ¾ ton would meet my future needs. I didn’t want to worry about how much stuff I could put in the truck bed plus carrying a full fresh water tank, grey water tank, generator etc. without getting close to the pay load limit. When I asked the sales person about a SRW 1-ton he said the only ones in stock had 8’ beds and he did not sound optimistic about finding any with the 6.5’ beds. For my needs (wants) an 8’ bed plus the crew cab was too long so I decided to wait and keep looking. I’m glad we waited.
A little over two weeks ago my wife and I checked the Chevy dealership and they had two (one white, one silver)2019 Z71 3500 SRW 4WD diesel trucks with 6.5’ beds; my ideal truck. Got prices from other Chevy dealers but no one was offering a better deal, so we purchased the silver one.
I think I found the truck that will meet my towing and daily driving needs, and what’s really important- the DW likes it and hasn’t complained about the solid ride.
Some of the specs: Duramax 6.6L turbo diesel, Allison 6 speed transmission, 3.73 rear axle ratio, 3,927lbs max PL (door sticker says 3600 passenger plus cargo) and 13,000 lbs conventional towing.
Thanks for your input; It helped me keep an open mind and not zero in on one manufacturer.
Another step closer to full-time RVing.
Steve
Keeping these points in mind will go a long way to help with the reliability question of any vehicle, IMHO. And the really huge benefit is, it's safer.
..don't let anyone "push" you faster than your operating "sweet spot"
I totally agree. Unfortunately, I have let myself fall into that trap several times. Nice reminder.
Steve