How easy or difficult to do everything by yourself
Rollindowntheroad said
03:39 PM Jul 18, 2017
Hello all. I am new to this forum.
I want to full time when I retire and have been researching RV's. I am single, so that brings me to my question:
What is going to be easiest as far a hooking up and setting up when it's only 1 person? I can't decide on whether to get a MH with a toad or a truck/TT or truck/5'ver combination. I would really prefer not to have to buy a big truck and use it as a daily driver once I get some where. But, just how easy or difficult is it for 1 person to do everything? I still have some time before I need to make a final decision. I am curious as to what other solo rv'ers have and why. Currently I am not planning on doing a lot of traveling but finding a spot and staying a month or two then going some where else and staying for a while.
Your thoughts and ideas are greatly appreciated.
RonC said
04:13 PM Jul 18, 2017
Not a solo, but I did take our rig (described in my signature below) on a 4 stop trip from San Antonio, TX to Virginia Beach, VA ... to meet up with my wife. I've done it and it wasn't all that hard ... that said, if you don't want to "drive a big truck around", then get a motorhome. Motor homes are a little easier to move, but less "home like" when stationary (IMO). But to repeat ... if you don't like driving a truck around, by all means, get a motorhome. I like big trucks, so my motivation was the opposite of yours. Neither is "better", just different. Good luck and be safe.
Neil and Connie said
05:53 PM Jul 18, 2017
From a "how easy or difficult" standpoint…there's nothing with our 5ver that isn't doable by one person…and the vast majority of what you would do with a Class A is similar. Some things are a bit easier with two people…but if you're on your own then you'll quickly figure out the best way to do the task solo.
For instance…one thing that is easier with two people is backing up to hitch or pulling the Toad up to the back of the Class A to hitch it up. Although it's actually easier to hitch with 2…it's not really the backing up that's easier, it's the whole process of doing a hitch test, checking lights, etc. Solo means you have to keep getting out and in to check stuff. Same with hooking up the Toad…you can't see the tow bars as you pull up to the back of the rig and the first time you'll have to get in and out of the Toad a dozen times. By the time you've hooked up a half dozen times you'll largely have figured out how far to pull up by looking at the back of the rig even though you can't see the tow bars.
mycroft8 said
10:44 PM Jul 18, 2017
My plan is to have a backup camera both on the truck and on the fifth wheel; then practice, practice, etc. in a safe area.
Dutch said
07:33 AM Jul 19, 2017
Due to my wife's health issues, I normally do all of the hooking up and site setup by myself. Hooking up and unhooking our toad is not difficult with our ReadyBrute Elite all terrain aluminum tow bar and brake system. After the first few times you'll know where to position it for hooking up. Setting up the motorhome on a site is also an easy task. I pull or back in, depending on the site type, hit the leveling jacks "Auto" button, and while the coach is leveling, I pull out the power cord and plug in to shorepower. Then I connect the water hose and go inside to extend the slide and set up the items on the bath and kitchen counters that were stowed in the sinks for travel. The sewer hose doesn't get hooked up until it's time to dump the tanks. Total setup time is usually around 20 minutes. My only other setup task is if we want to use our tripod mounted satellite dish, which usually takes another 15 minutes or less to set up and aim. If it's raining out at setup time, I usually just scoot out and plug in the power cord while leveling, leaving the rest for a break in the weather. The awning and front sun screen may or may not get set up eventually, depending on the length of stay, location, and weather.
IrishRover said
07:52 AM Jul 19, 2017
Are the tasks any more challenging if you only have the limited use of one arm/hand - injured or recovering? Just trying to assess the need for full strength in both hands to do all the setup tasks. The presses the Auto Level and slides in/out buttons should be OK , but are there other tasks that demand lots of two-handed work or strength. Recovering rotator cuff patient!!
solo boondocker said
08:05 AM Jul 19, 2017
Welcome Larry.
I'm a fulltime solo/single. When I turned in my Ohio title to get Florida tags in February, I noticed I've been doing this for 8 years. In that time I've met exactly TWO solos in anything but a motor home. They were both on last winter's escape from the snow. But like you're planning, they also sit a great deal more than they travel. I've yet to meet a solo with a toad or a pet for at matter. But remember most solos I meet are rv'ing in a style similar to mine.
I understand tow behinds are more popular for solos out west. Don't know; don't go there.
You said you plan on staying in one place for extended periods. Since SS kicked in, I've been spending more time in campgrounds. But I still boondock at least 75% of the time. I very seldom sit for more than a week. FOR ME, a motor home is just simpler. For what it's worth, my C is 28' long and I'd like to find one about 20 feet long.
If you decide to get a pull behind, find one sized to fit a solo and you can get a smaller truck. The 2 towables I saw this past winter were well under 20 feet. Remember you'll be retired and living on wheels. Who do you need to impress? That crap is for working stiffs and married retirees at resort campgrounds. I've found the simpler I make my life, the happier I am.
You'll get a lot of advice from non-solos. Most miss the mark because they have an entirely different mindset. I'm happily divorced after a marriage of just over 30 years. I learned single is very different. Solo full timing is even more so.
Good luck with your search. If you're up around Pensacola is winter, I'll buy you a cup of coffee.
solo boondocker
RonC said
10:33 AM Jul 19, 2017
solo boondocker wrote:
Welcome Larry.
I'm a fulltime solo/single. When I turned in my Ohio title to get Florida tags in February, I noticed I've been doing this for 8 years. In that time I've met exactly TWO solos in anything but a motor home. They were both on last winter's escape from the snow. But like you're planning, they also sit a great deal more than they travel. I've yet to meet a solo with a toad or a pet for at matter. But remember most solos I meet are rv'ing in a style similar to mine.
I understand tow behinds are more popular for solos out west. Don't know; don't go there.
You said you plan on staying in one place for extended periods. Since SS kicked in, I've been spending more time in campgrounds. But I still boondock at least 75% of the time. I very seldom sit for more than a week. FOR ME, a motor home is just simpler. For what it's worth, my C is 28' long and I'd like to find one about 20 feet long.
If you decide to get a pull behind, find one sized to fit a solo and you can get a smaller truck. The 2 towables I saw this past winter were well under 20 feet. Remember you'll be retired and living on wheels. Who do you need to impress? That crap is for working stiffs and married retirees at resort campgrounds. I've found the simpler I make my life, the happier I am.
You'll get a lot of advice from non-solos. Most miss the mark because they have an entirely different mindset. I'm happily divorced after a marriage of just over 30 years. I learned single is very different. Solo full timing is even more so.
Good luck with your search. If you're up around Pensacola is winter, I'll buy you a cup of coffee.
solo boondocker
Just for the record ... the question was about how easy or hard it is to RV in a pull behind versus a motor home.
-- Edited by RonC on Wednesday 19th of July 2017 10:33:51 AM
Barbaraok said
11:52 AM Jul 19, 2017
Go with the MH. Takes maybe two tries to establish where the toad should be to hook up. One advantage is pull into rest area, never have to leave rig to use bathroom, get drink, etc.
BiggarView said
12:11 PM Jul 19, 2017
Not a solo either, but from my perspective.... it's really going to boil down to how much space you need to feel comfortable living in and what your mobility patterns are. If you feel fine in small spaces, a slide in camper is quite versatile, a class B is also small but drives just like a van (only taller), a lot of solo RVers have class C rigs. If you feel the need to wander a lot from your camp site, a MH, or even a class C with a "toad" seems a reasonable option. Big 5ers and TTs are probably not so good for solo operations due to backing up single handed (not impossible but certainly not a picnic either, anecdotal evidence). Earlier comments about hooking up toads seem thoughtful. In the end, you'll find a way to make whatever you pick work for you. Being solo, has it's own set of variables when everything works the way it should, but when things happen, go wrong or just won't co-operate being solo can be challenging. Not trying to discourage you, but "solo boondocker" seems to be speaking from some experience with a bit of mental gymnastics thrown in for good measure to "keep it real" for the budding solo adventurer. Even as a non-solo... I'd seek him out for a different perspective, just in case RV life hands me a curve ball I can't handle. All viewpoints are valid.
JMHO, Good luck.
-- Edited by BiggarView on Wednesday 19th of July 2017 12:23:28 PM
Dutch said
08:41 PM Jul 19, 2017
IrishRover wrote:
Are the tasks any more challenging if you only have the limited use of one arm/hand - injured or recovering? Just trying to assess the need for full strength in both hands to do all the setup tasks. The presses the Auto Level and slides in/out buttons should be OK , but are there other tasks that demand lots of two-handed work or strength. Recovering rotator cuff patient!!
I parked next to a fellow with one arm a couple of years ago. He seemed to manage all aspects of parking and setting up his motorhome fairly easily, with some tasks just taking a bit longer. With the help of a couple of inverted 'V' supports for the tow bar made of PVC pipe, he even managed unhooking and hooking up his toad with little trouble. I think he was in his late 60's, and his remaining arm had an impressive bicep!
LarryW21 said
08:44 PM Jul 19, 2017
Most of my camping is alone in a TT. No issues except backing up safely requires getting out to check. Sometimes two or three times.
mycroft8 said
09:33 PM Jul 19, 2017
I'll be a solo in 3-6 months (have to wait until after I retire; then I have to sell the house and get a rig).
Right now I'm leaning towards a 5th wheel; meaning I have to learn how to back in successfully. Plus how to turn in tight spots.
My thought process leans first towards CCC. I've not been impressed by the Class C's I have seen re carrying capacity. I don't care how much storage space there is, if you can't safely put anything there and have to travel with empty water tanks.
Class A's are more usable for me. So far the smaller gas powered Class A's (typically the Ford F53 chassis) haven't impressed me. A bigger diesel is possible; I'd just have to find an "old enough" unit to fit my budget.
The fifth wheels I've visited have had the best impression. Mentally, they really "feel like" a small apartment. They feel like a place I could live for "years".
Whatever I get, I may or may not buy new.
I may lean in a different direction as the time gets closer. So far, I don't think there will be a problem being solo. I just have to really know what I'm doing.
Dave
IrishRover said
11:20 PM Jul 19, 2017
Dutch wrote
I parked next to a fellow with one arm a couple of years ago. He seemed to manage all aspects of parking and setting up his motorhome fairly easily, with some tasks just taking a bit longer. With the help of a couple of inverted 'V' supports for the tow bar made of PVC pipe, he even managed unhooking and hooking up his toad with little trouble. I think he was in his late 60's, and his remaining arm had an impressive bicep!
Thanks Dutch. That is impressive. At least I'm recovering and hopefully back to more that 50% by the time we start full-time. Only about 10% now. There are always those people that we may perceive as less fortunate or in some way handicapped, that can really impress you in overcoming almost any obstacle.
nettie said
07:15 PM Dec 17, 2017
As some have said it will end up being your personal preference. While my husband was still alive we bought 30 footer class A. His thinking was that it would be easier for me as I was doing the driving and setup. The actual setup was a little bit easier but I didn't like having two motors to worry about servicing or paying to have done and the extra cost of tires for both the A and the toad. We had previously had a 5'ver and went back to having a 34 footer, which he really loved. I didn't have any trouble with setup, only got to be the entertainment once in awhile at getting backed in at campgrounds.
I am now alone and towing a 30 ft. 5'ver which I enjoy. What ever you decide, have fun.
Barbaraok said
07:23 PM Dec 18, 2017
Neil and Connie wrote:
From a "how easy or difficult" standpoint…there's nothing with our 5ver that isn't doable by one person…and the vast majority of what you would do with a Class A is similar. Some things are a bit easier with two people…but if you're on your own then you'll quickly figure out the best way to do the task solo.
For instance…one thing that is easier with two people is backing up to hitch or pulling the Toad up to the back of the Class A to hitch it up. Although it's actually easier to hitch with 2…it's not really the backing up that's easier, it's the whole process of doing a hitch test, checking lights, etc. Solo means you have to keep getting out and in to check stuff. Same with hooking up the Toad…you can't see the tow bars as you pull up to the back of the rig and the first time you'll have to get in and out of the Toad a dozen times. By the time you've hooked up a half dozen times you'll largely have figured out how far to pull up by looking at the back of the rig even though you can't see the tow bars.
Sorry, but that really doesn't track with our experience. I do the hitching of the toad to the MH. It is a one person job. And if I need to check the lights, yes, it does require a quick couple of trips (one with emergency flashers going, one with either left or right turn), then away I go. Yes, I have driven it with Dave flat on his back because of his back. Took maybe a few more minutes to do everything alone, but it wasn't that hard. First time to pull up toad to back of MH, use a couple of orange cones, lay the bars out, place the cones where you need the car to be, move arms out of the way, pull up car. Orange cones are your friend.
More home like - I think that depends upon the motorhome. Slides make them wider, it is all one level once you are in, and if you have a DP like we do, when you drop the air, much lower so fewer steps to get inside. Plus, pull into a rest area, and never have to go outside to get to the toilet or refrigerator. And no huge truck as a daily driver. We love having a small car to run around in.
Hello all. I am new to this forum.
I want to full time when I retire and have been researching RV's. I am single, so that brings me to my question:
What is going to be easiest as far a hooking up and setting up when it's only 1 person? I can't decide on whether to get a MH with a toad or a truck/TT or truck/5'ver combination. I would really prefer not to have to buy a big truck and use it as a daily driver once I get some where. But, just how easy or difficult is it for 1 person to do everything? I still have some time before I need to make a final decision. I am curious as to what other solo rv'ers have and why. Currently I am not planning on doing a lot of traveling but finding a spot and staying a month or two then going some where else and staying for a while.
Your thoughts and ideas are greatly appreciated.
From a "how easy or difficult" standpoint…there's nothing with our 5ver that isn't doable by one person…and the vast majority of what you would do with a Class A is similar. Some things are a bit easier with two people…but if you're on your own then you'll quickly figure out the best way to do the task solo.
For instance…one thing that is easier with two people is backing up to hitch or pulling the Toad up to the back of the Class A to hitch it up. Although it's actually easier to hitch with 2…it's not really the backing up that's easier, it's the whole process of doing a hitch test, checking lights, etc. Solo means you have to keep getting out and in to check stuff. Same with hooking up the Toad…you can't see the tow bars as you pull up to the back of the rig and the first time you'll have to get in and out of the Toad a dozen times. By the time you've hooked up a half dozen times you'll largely have figured out how far to pull up by looking at the back of the rig even though you can't see the tow bars.
Are the tasks any more challenging if you only have the limited use of one arm/hand - injured or recovering? Just trying to assess the need for full strength in both hands to do all the setup tasks. The presses the Auto Level and slides in/out buttons should be OK
, but are there other tasks that demand lots of two-handed work or strength. Recovering rotator cuff patient!!
Welcome Larry.
I'm a fulltime solo/single. When I turned in my Ohio title to get Florida tags in February, I noticed I've been doing this for 8 years. In that time I've met exactly TWO solos in anything but a motor home. They were both on last winter's escape from the snow. But like you're planning, they also sit a great deal more than they travel. I've yet to meet a solo with a toad or a pet for at matter. But remember most solos I meet are rv'ing in a style similar to mine.
I understand tow behinds are more popular for solos out west. Don't know; don't go there.
You said you plan on staying in one place for extended periods. Since SS kicked in, I've been spending more time in campgrounds. But I still boondock at least 75% of the time. I very seldom sit for more than a week. FOR ME, a motor home is just simpler. For what it's worth, my C is 28' long and I'd like to find one about 20 feet long.
If you decide to get a pull behind, find one sized to fit a solo and you can get a smaller truck. The 2 towables I saw this past winter were well under 20 feet. Remember you'll be retired and living on wheels. Who do you need to impress? That crap is for working stiffs and married retirees at resort campgrounds. I've found the simpler I make my life, the happier I am.
You'll get a lot of advice from non-solos. Most miss the mark because they have an entirely different mindset. I'm happily divorced after a marriage of just over 30 years. I learned single is very different. Solo full timing is even more so.
Good luck with your search. If you're up around Pensacola is winter, I'll buy you a cup of coffee.
solo boondocker
Just for the record ... the question was about how easy or hard it is to RV in a pull behind versus a motor home.
-- Edited by RonC on Wednesday 19th of July 2017 10:33:51 AM
Not a solo either, but from my perspective.... it's really going to boil down to how much space you need to feel comfortable living in and what your mobility patterns are. If you feel fine in small spaces, a slide in camper is quite versatile, a class B is also small but drives just like a van (only taller), a lot of solo RVers have class C rigs. If you feel the need to wander a lot from your camp site, a MH, or even a class C with a "toad" seems a reasonable option. Big 5ers and TTs are probably not so good for solo operations due to backing up single handed (not impossible but certainly not a picnic either, anecdotal evidence). Earlier comments about hooking up toads seem thoughtful. In the end, you'll find a way to make whatever you pick work for you. Being solo, has it's own set of variables when everything works the way it should, but when things happen, go wrong or just won't co-operate being solo can be challenging. Not trying to discourage you, but "solo boondocker" seems to be speaking from some experience with a bit of mental gymnastics thrown in for good measure to "keep it real" for the budding solo adventurer. Even as a non-solo... I'd seek him out for a different perspective, just in case RV life hands me a curve ball I can't handle. All viewpoints are valid.
JMHO, Good luck.
-- Edited by BiggarView on Wednesday 19th of July 2017 12:23:28 PM
I parked next to a fellow with one arm a couple of years ago. He seemed to manage all aspects of parking and setting up his motorhome fairly easily, with some tasks just taking a bit longer. With the help of a couple of inverted 'V' supports for the tow bar made of PVC pipe, he even managed unhooking and hooking up his toad with little trouble. I think he was in his late 60's, and his remaining arm had an impressive bicep!
Right now I'm leaning towards a 5th wheel; meaning I have to learn how to back in successfully. Plus how to turn in tight spots.
My thought process leans first towards CCC. I've not been impressed by the Class C's I have seen re carrying capacity. I don't care how much storage space there is, if you can't safely put anything there and have to travel with empty water tanks.
Class A's are more usable for me. So far the smaller gas powered Class A's (typically the Ford F53 chassis) haven't impressed me. A bigger diesel is possible; I'd just have to find an "old enough" unit to fit my budget.
The fifth wheels I've visited have had the best impression. Mentally, they really "feel like" a small apartment. They feel like a place I could live for "years".
Whatever I get, I may or may not buy new.
I may lean in a different direction as the time gets closer. So far, I don't think there will be a problem being solo. I just have to really know what I'm doing.
Dave
Thanks Dutch. That is impressive. At least I'm recovering and hopefully back to more that 50% by the time we start full-time. Only about 10% now. There are always those people that we may perceive as less fortunate or in some way handicapped, that can really impress you in overcoming almost any obstacle.
As some have said it will end up being your personal preference. While my husband was still alive we bought 30 footer class A. His thinking was that it would be easier for me as I was doing the driving and setup. The actual setup was a little bit easier but I didn't like having two motors to worry about servicing or paying to have done and the extra cost of tires for both the A and the toad. We had previously had a 5'ver and went back to having a 34 footer, which he really loved. I didn't have any trouble with setup, only got to be the entertainment once in awhile at getting backed in at campgrounds.
I am now alone and towing a 30 ft. 5'ver which I enjoy. What ever you decide, have fun.
Sorry, but that really doesn't track with our experience. I do the hitching of the toad to the MH. It is a one person job. And if I need to check the lights, yes, it does require a quick couple of trips (one with emergency flashers going, one with either left or right turn), then away I go. Yes, I have driven it with Dave flat on his back because of his back. Took maybe a few more minutes to do everything alone, but it wasn't that hard. First time to pull up toad to back of MH, use a couple of orange cones, lay the bars out, place the cones where you need the car to be, move arms out of the way, pull up car. Orange cones are your friend.
More home like - I think that depends upon the motorhome. Slides make them wider, it is all one level once you are in, and if you have a DP like we do, when you drop the air, much lower so fewer steps to get inside. Plus, pull into a rest area, and never have to go outside to get to the toilet or refrigerator. And no huge truck as a daily driver. We love having a small car to run around in.