Ok, while looking up state parks and public campgrounds (particularly in NY and NJ), some of the parks have a rate listed for "RV" and another rate for "trailer". IF an RV is either a motorhome, fifth wheel or travel trailer, what are the parks considering to be a trailer?
bjoyce said
05:26 PM Apr 17, 2014
In some areas, "RV" means motorhome. They think the rest of us are strange using "RV" for trailers. Then there are those who use "winnebago".
-- Edited by bjoyce on Thursday 17th of April 2014 05:26:35 PM
Lucky Mike said
06:11 PM Apr 17, 2014
in Maine and NH .....4 wheelers 7 Snow machines are considered RV's if you get here early enough in the season!!
Howard said
08:18 AM Apr 18, 2014
Okay, so you know that Recreation.gov (federal campgrounds) and ReserveAmerica (many state park systems and some private RV park systems) are the main reservation booking systems for most of the public campgrounds in the country. The same company runs both websites and the reservation booking systems are exactly the same.
They have individual contracts with each state park system and each contract includes "Type of Campsite" as one of the items to be completed for each campsite. Each park system designates whether each campsite is suitable for an RV, Trailer, Tent, etc. Some places consider an RV to be motorhomes only, while other places include trailers in their definition of RVs.
On the websites' Frequently Asked Questions, there is nothing that defines the difference between an "RV Site" and a "Trailer Site".
Okay, let's say four parks have 40-foot sites. Under "Type of Site" one park may designate all their 40-foot sites as "RV Sites" AND "Trailer Sites" as they can give multiple designations. One park may designate all of their 40-foot sites as "RV Sites" only. One park may designate all their 40-foot sites as "Trailer Sites" only. One park may designate some of their 40-foot sites as "RV Sites", some as "Trailer Sites", and some as both "RV Sites" AND "Trailer Sites".
So, it all depends on how the park has designated the sites as to what comes up in your search criteria.
Just for kicks I just did a search at Allegheny State Park in New York. When I searched for "RV Sites" of at least 40 feet, I got 52 sites that met that criteria. When I searched for "Trailer Sites" of at least 40 feet, I got 61 sites that met that criteria. Upon further review, most of the sites had both "RV Site" and "Trailer Site" designations in the details, BUT some were designated only as "Trailer Sites" and NOT "RV Sites" even though there didn't appear to be any difference in site size or amenities. If I had searched on "RV Sites" only, I would have missed nine additional sites that might have worked for us - that can be a big deal.
In all of the years we've been doing this, sometimes I search on "RV Sites" and sometimes I search on "Trailer Sites", but I almost never do a search on both UNLESS the search result comes back funky (now I know why that might happen). I didn't think it mattered as long as I put in the length. Well, as it turns out, it does matter .... sometimes .... depending on what each park put in the "Type of Campsite" field for each campsite.
As we say here, there are no "dumb questions". And your question helped me learn something today. From now on, I'll be doing a search of both "RV Sites" and "Trailer Sites".
TRAILERKING said
08:23 AM Apr 18, 2014
Maybe the "Trailer Sites" are looked at as like "Mobile Home" or "Park Model" type designation. Meant to be parked for long periods like a seasonal site.
Just a thought................
FastEagle said
09:04 AM Apr 18, 2014
Because of the way most floor plans are laid out on motor homes, the driver/passenger end has the most advantageous views when pulled straight into sites with water views or scenic views. On the other hand, most floor plans for RV trailers - especially 5th wheels - have floor plans with the most advantageous views out of the back end and when backed into a site beside a motor home that has been parked with the front end facing the view both may have equally rewarding views.
We have been to a number of RV parks with sites having utilities - water, electric, CATV - and parking pads configured for both pull-in & back-in parking. I don’t recall any difference in pricing but we have a 5er and only asked about it.
FastEagle
-- Edited by FastEagle on Friday 18th of April 2014 09:04:30 AM
-- Edited by FastEagle on Friday 18th of April 2014 09:05:20 AM
BiggarView said
09:12 AM Apr 18, 2014
Howard wrote:
...As we say here, there are no "dumb questions". And your question helped me learn something today. From now on, I'll be doing a search of both "RV Sites" and "Trailer Sites".
I'll second that, who would have that such a distinction could lead to a variation in the result... I would have assumed the same thing. We all learned somthing new. Good to know for future planning.
Brian
-- Edited by biggaRView on Friday 18th of April 2014 09:12:35 AM
cherylbrv said
11:53 AM Apr 18, 2014
Thanks for the explanation, Howard. At least I'm not going crazy (at least not in this area anyway!) The listings you mentioned are exactly where I was looking and the cause of the confusion. I'm not sure I understand the answer, except there really is no answer but as long as I enter the length, I'll be ok.
Barbaraok said
12:12 PM Apr 18, 2014
One of the things we've found is that in some places "trailer" sites often refer to sites that have more slope than a motorhome can easily deal with, while trailers with their pivot points will do just fine.
Barb
FastEagle said
09:31 AM Apr 19, 2014
A few years ago while traveling with friends in IL we spent a month parked at a Mobile Home park in Peoria. There were just a few sites available and we were lucky enough to get two of them side by side. They were nice large sites with full hook-ups including 50 amp elect. We paid a very reasonable price for a month long stay. The utility connections were not easy to connect to but both of us had all the additional equipment for extended connections. The sewer connection was under the trailer but the sites were high and dry so crawling under the trailer to make the connections was easy.
We found those sites by reading the mobile home adds in the phone book.
Ok, while looking up state parks and public campgrounds (particularly in NY and NJ), some of the parks have a rate listed for "RV" and another rate for "trailer". IF an RV is either a motorhome, fifth wheel or travel trailer, what are the parks considering to be a trailer?
In some areas, "RV" means motorhome. They think the rest of us are strange using "RV" for trailers. Then there are those who use "winnebago".
-- Edited by bjoyce on Thursday 17th of April 2014 05:26:35 PM
Okay, so you know that Recreation.gov (federal campgrounds) and ReserveAmerica (many state park systems and some private RV park systems) are the main reservation booking systems for most of the public campgrounds in the country. The same company runs both websites and the reservation booking systems are exactly the same.
They have individual contracts with each state park system and each contract includes "Type of Campsite" as one of the items to be completed for each campsite. Each park system designates whether each campsite is suitable for an RV, Trailer, Tent, etc. Some places consider an RV to be motorhomes only, while other places include trailers in their definition of RVs.
On the websites' Frequently Asked Questions, there is nothing that defines the difference between an "RV Site" and a "Trailer Site".
Okay, let's say four parks have 40-foot sites. Under "Type of Site" one park may designate all their 40-foot sites as "RV Sites" AND "Trailer Sites" as they can give multiple designations. One park may designate all of their 40-foot sites as "RV Sites" only. One park may designate all their 40-foot sites as "Trailer Sites" only. One park may designate some of their 40-foot sites as "RV Sites", some as "Trailer Sites", and some as both "RV Sites" AND "Trailer Sites".
So, it all depends on how the park has designated the sites as to what comes up in your search criteria.
Just for kicks I just did a search at Allegheny State Park in New York. When I searched for "RV Sites" of at least 40 feet, I got 52 sites that met that criteria. When I searched for "Trailer Sites" of at least 40 feet, I got 61 sites that met that criteria. Upon further review, most of the sites had both "RV Site" and "Trailer Site" designations in the details, BUT some were designated only as "Trailer Sites" and NOT "RV Sites" even though there didn't appear to be any difference in site size or amenities. If I had searched on "RV Sites" only, I would have missed nine additional sites that might have worked for us - that can be a big deal.
In all of the years we've been doing this, sometimes I search on "RV Sites" and sometimes I search on "Trailer Sites", but I almost never do a search on both UNLESS the search result comes back funky (now I know why that might happen). I didn't think it mattered as long as I put in the length. Well, as it turns out, it does matter .... sometimes .... depending on what each park put in the "Type of Campsite" field for each campsite.
As we say here, there are no "dumb questions". And your question helped me learn something today. From now on, I'll be doing a search of both "RV Sites" and "Trailer Sites".
Just a thought................
Because of the way most floor plans are laid out on motor homes, the driver/passenger end has the most advantageous views when pulled straight into sites with water views or scenic views. On the other hand, most floor plans for RV trailers - especially 5th wheels - have floor plans with the most advantageous views out of the back end and when backed into a site beside a motor home that has been parked with the front end facing the view both may have equally rewarding views.
We have been to a number of RV parks with sites having utilities - water, electric, CATV - and parking pads configured for both pull-in & back-in parking. I don’t recall any difference in pricing but we have a 5er and only asked about it.
FastEagle
-- Edited by FastEagle on Friday 18th of April 2014 09:04:30 AM
-- Edited by FastEagle on Friday 18th of April 2014 09:05:20 AM
I'll second that, who would have that such a distinction could lead to a variation in the result... I would have assumed the same thing. We all learned somthing new. Good to know for future planning.
Brian
-- Edited by biggaRView on Friday 18th of April 2014 09:12:35 AM
Barb
We found those sites by reading the mobile home adds in the phone book.
www.irv2.com/photopost/showfull.php
FastEagle