Maximum number of jack pads you have used to level your RV?
Lynn and Ed said
11:31 AM Mar 19, 2014
We purchased ABS plastic jack pads (20,000 lb. weight capacity each) for typical usage, but we know we will need additional jack pads if we are on unlevel ground. I had Home Depot cut some 3/4 plywood into 12x12 pieces for me, that we can use to assist with leveling. However, I am not sure how many pieces it makes sense to carry with us. A 18 gallon roughneck tub will easily hold the 4 ABS jack pads and 14 of the plywood 12x12s, but I think that is overkill--and I am sure we could use the weight/space otherwise. I would be interested to know what the maximum number of jack pads that others have used.
Thanks, Lynn
-- Edited by Lynn and Ed on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 11:36:31 AM
Lucky Mike said
12:12 PM Mar 19, 2014
its going to depend on how off level you are......I carry 4 ..2x12x12 and 4.. 1x12x12 poly cutting blocks for 3 pods....if that doesnt cover it ,I move it
Clay L said
12:40 PM Mar 19, 2014
I rarely have had to put anything under the jacks but fairly often have had to put something under the tires to get them high enough for the jacks to level the chassis without lifting them off the ground. I have carried four sets of ten of the Leggo type leveling blocks and once or twice have used them all. i don't have the space for a lot of wood blocks and don't want the weight either.
Now I am older and a lot more grouchy and will move to another site or another RV park if I can't level with the jacks alone.
-- Edited by Clay L on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 12:41:28 PM
-- Edited by Clay L on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 12:43:31 PM
-- Edited by Clay L on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 12:44:07 PM
Lynn and Ed said
02:06 PM Mar 19, 2014
Mike and Clay, thank you for your responses!
Based upon what you carry Mike, it sounds like we should carry 12 of the plywood 3/4" 12x12s, since the ABS plastic jack pads are also 3/4" high. It lights the load in the basement slightly ... by eliminating two of the 12x12s . Overtime, we will see how comfortable/how frequently we choose to stay on unlevel sites/locations and can potentially eliminate some more of the 12x12s.
The Bear II said
02:09 PM Mar 19, 2014
I carry an assortment of short length 2X4s. This allows me to stack them log cabin style for stabilizers or jacks
Or place them side by side and staggered stack to drive up on to level side to side.
All totalled I have about 20 some as short as 10 inches most are longer than 12 inches. They were leftovers from a framing project.
For years I was able to get by with a set of the ABS plastic lego type blocks sold at Camping world. Until they disintegrated from sun damage.
If on dirt, I dig a hole to drop the high side into to help level.
Bill and Linda said
03:12 PM Mar 19, 2014
Lynn and Ed wrote:
We purchased ABS plastic jack pads (20,000 lb. weight capacity each) for typical usage, but we know we will need additional jack pads if we are on unlevel ground. I had Home Depot cut some 3/4 plywood into 12x12 pieces for me, that we can use to assist with leveling. However, I am not sure how many pieces it makes sense to carry with us. A 18 gallon roughneck tub will easily hold the 4 ABS jack pads and 14 of the plywood 12x12s, but I think that is overkill--and I am sure we could use the weight/space otherwise. I would be interested to know what the maximum number of jack pads that others have used.
Thanks, Lynn
-- Edited by Lynn and Ed on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 11:36:31 AM
Lynn and Ed:
You may need additional jack pads if the NH is really unlevel left to right. No problem using pads if you want to.However, the Big Foots, in our experience, will auto extend to the correct length required before they try to level the rig.That is they will come down, you can do it manually in the front as you unhitch, and they will “find” and actually verify they are individually solid on the ground before they try to pick up the rig.
I always extended the ones in front to the ground, unhitched, and then hit the auto button and watched the blinking lights.All four make sure they are solid to the ground, individually, before they attempt to level the rig. They “bump” the hydraulic pumps (one on each leg) and look for back pressure so to speak to make that “I'm solid” determination.
That’s the way ours worked for years and I seldom needed any pads except when the ground was muddy and I didn’t want that mud getting on the hydraulic shafts. Naturally, using pads or building up the pads vertically can't hurt a thing. But the Big Foot system is designed to level the rig under some pretty adverse conditions and you don't need to "pre-level the ground" as some other systems might require.
YMMV
Bill
Lynn and Ed said
04:45 PM Mar 19, 2014
Larry and Bill, thank you both for your responses!
Bill, I did realize that the Big Foot system would address some of the leveling but also thought there would be times when the system might needs some help--although it would be nice if that was not the case. As I further figure out what will go where in the basement (and in what tubs), I will likely further reduce the number of plywood 12x12s we bring with us ... thanks .
Alie and Jims Carrilite said
05:15 PM Mar 19, 2014
I've dug a hole on 1 side, and raised 6" on the other side. The issue was we couldn't unhook, but it was only overnite in a very unlevel area.
bjoyce said
05:46 PM Mar 19, 2014
We have had to raise the driver's side with 8" of blocks while street camping in front of an aunt's house. The street had a lot of "crown" for rain water.
Terry and Jo said
06:57 PM Mar 19, 2014
Lynn and Ed,
Something to consider with regards to plywood. Since they are made up of multiple layers of thinner pieces of wood, those layers could begin to separate once they start getting wet. For that reason, I always use solid wood, regardless of the thickness. However, it should also be mentioned that thinner wood may split easier when pressure is put on them when they are on somewhat uneven ground.
Personally, I use two systems, but have not really tested the second one very well. I use 2-inch blocks of wood that are at least 12"x12" for the first system. The second system is a bunch of pieces cut from a barn stall mat that I picked up at Tractor's Supply. I have about 4 pieces that are 8" wide and 5-feet long and the rest are 8" wide and about a foot long that make up the second system. Why I'm saying that isn't tested is because I've not used them much. I am currently using one of the 5-foot ones under the wheels on one side of the coach to make it more level before extending the leveling legs. I've noticed that when I back up on that strip when it is on concrete, it tends to want to "squish" to one side.
In that article above, he used a hacksaw to cut that barn stall mat. I used one of the utility knives that uses angled razor blades. I had to make multiple cuts to get all the way through, but it makes a cleaner cut than what a hacksaw would.
Once we get moved to Colorado, our wheels won't be on concrete, so I may have to rethink what I do up there.
Terry
Lynn and Ed said
09:39 PM Mar 19, 2014
Alie & Jims, Bill and Terry, thanks!
Terry, I thought about solid wood jack pads, but decided on the plywood since ideally we will not regularly need them for leveling. Additionally, when the plywood is used they will be placed on top the ABS plastic jack pads, so they should have minimal contact with the ground (although they will be exposed to weather conditions) and benefit from the underlying strength of the ABS plastic. Over time, depending upon how often we need to use the wood jack pads, we might upgrade our wood choice. If it is of interest to you (or others reading the thread) -- the ABS jack pads we purchased are on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPEP7C/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1), but they can also be found otherwise at a better price. I assume these ABS jack pads will provide us with many years of use.
Lynn
NWescapee said
07:43 AM Mar 20, 2014
I don't know how many we have, but I do know it's too many. All of our blocks were used when we had to level on our old driveway before we sold the house. I keep saying we need to get rid of some of them, I never want to have to level on that steep of a slope again!! One purging battle I have not yet won, but I will
Terry and Jo said
08:38 PM Mar 20, 2014
NWescapee wrote:
I don't know how many we have, but I do know it's too many. All of our blocks were used when we had to level on our old driveway before we sold the house. I keep saying we need to get rid of some of them, I never want to have to level on that steep of a slope again!! One purging battle I have not yet won, but I will
Hey, Ruth!!!
How close are you to the lake?????
Just sayin'.
Terry
NWescapee said
09:27 PM Mar 20, 2014
Terry - LOL, we're not that close, however, the fairly level pad was just the right length to get the trailer and truck on it with the rear jacks on the pavement but the rear living area hanging over a down slope, if we wanted to get the bikes off the rack in the back, it would require a 3 step stool or potentially a ladder. However, this variable OK weather with strong winds is not making us real inclined to ride bikes, not to mention our allergies that are running amuck with this seasonal allergy "stuff" you Okies think is normal. However, we still didn't need any blocks, just chalks, thanks to our leveling system. BTW, the driveway at our house was over 15% downgrade, like I said, never want to level on a spot that steep again.
Neil and Connie said
10:11 AM Mar 21, 2014
I got a 12 foot 2x8 and had the Home Depot guys cut it into 6 sections. We always use one under each jack unless we're sitting on concrete and usually even then I put them in. I've had to put the another one on top of the standard ones exactly once…we had a site that was really low on one rear corner and the Big Foot didn't have enough trail to level. Never used the sixth one. Ours live in the bed of the truck when towing.
You'll definitely need something with a NH…the weight makes the jackpots sink into the ground on grass sites and on asphalt ones when the weather is hot. Gravel they usually won't sink nor on concrete…but we always use them even on concrete. Depending on how much surface area the ones you got have…you might need the wood ones anyway on grass sites to keep you from sinking…particularly if it's rained recently.
bjoyce said
10:59 AM Mar 21, 2014
Lynn and Ed wrote:
Alie & Jims, Bill and Terry, thanks!
Terry, I thought about solid wood jack pads, but decided on the plywood since ideally we will not regularly need them for leveling. Additionally, when the plywood is used they will be placed on top the ABS plastic jack pads, so they should have minimal contact with the ground (although they will be exposed to weather conditions) and benefit from the underlying strength of the ABS plastic. Over time, depending upon how often we need to use the wood jack pads, we might upgrade our wood choice. If it is of interest to you (or others reading the thread) -- the ABS jack pads we purchased are on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPEP7C/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1), but they can also be found otherwise at a better price. I assume these ABS jack pads will provide us with many years of use.
Lynn
We carry a set of similar pads that we got at a rally many years ago. They are still good. Black ABS is supposed to have UV (sun) protection. I destroyed some of the yellow Camco blocks after 3 months in the sun, they discolored and distorted. But those pads are not very thick. Close to the cutting saw at home improvement stores there is often a scrap bin, you can often find nice lumber at a discount there.
01zeosix said
03:10 PM Mar 21, 2014
Go to a local Tractor Supply (or similar) and purchase a "stall mat". They come in a couple of sizes. Made of 1" rubber. Easy to cut and make your own pads. I bought a large stall mat and had enough for 4 jack pads and 2 longer strips for the dual wheels. Easy to drill out after they are cut and use a nylon piece of rope to carry with. Study the Amazon link. Worked for me anyway. Your mileage might vary.
Hope this helps.
Lucky Mike said
04:15 PM Mar 21, 2014
Tid-bit for cutting Stall mats:
Reverse the blade..(put it on backwards) on your circular saw....you will get a super clean cut without all the work!!!!!
Wheel_Estate said
11:18 PM Apr 9, 2014
No leveling jacks here.
We carry a couple 2 X 12 X 16s mitered on one end to put under either side or front or back as needed. Any more than that and I look for a better spot. Have used the dig a hole trick too. Sometimes the airbags do the job since they are independently valved.
Only time we wished for more was at the Blue Water Casino in Parker, Az. They built that parking lot on a hill :(
After Margie won $20 on her free play we headed to Walmart for the night...needed to load up for Quartzsite anyway.
Just haven't been enough times to make it worth carrying a bunch of lumber and I'm too cheap to buy "legos".
We purchased ABS plastic jack pads (20,000 lb. weight capacity each) for typical usage, but we know we will need additional jack pads if we are on unlevel ground. I had Home Depot cut some 3/4 plywood into 12x12 pieces for me, that we can use to assist with leveling. However, I am not sure how many pieces it makes sense to carry with us. A 18 gallon roughneck tub will easily hold the 4 ABS jack pads and 14 of the plywood 12x12s, but I think that is overkill--and I am sure we could use the weight/space otherwise. I would be interested to know what the maximum number of jack pads that others have used.
Thanks,
Lynn
-- Edited by Lynn and Ed on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 11:36:31 AM
I rarely have had to put anything under the jacks but fairly often have had to put something under the tires to get them high enough for the jacks to level the chassis without lifting them off the ground. I have carried four sets of ten of the Leggo type leveling blocks and once or twice have used them all. i don't have the space for a lot of wood blocks and don't want the weight either.
Now I am older and a lot more grouchy and will move to another site or another RV park if I can't level with the jacks alone.
-- Edited by Clay L on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 12:41:28 PM
-- Edited by Clay L on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 12:43:31 PM
-- Edited by Clay L on Wednesday 19th of March 2014 12:44:07 PM
Mike and Clay, thank you for your responses!
Based upon what you carry Mike, it sounds like we should carry 12 of the plywood 3/4" 12x12s, since the ABS plastic jack pads are also 3/4" high. It lights the load in the basement slightly ... by eliminating two of the 12x12s
. Overtime, we will see how comfortable/how frequently we choose to stay on unlevel sites/locations and can potentially eliminate some more of the 12x12s.
Or place them side by side and staggered stack to drive up on to level side to side.
All totalled I have about 20 some as short as 10 inches most are longer than 12 inches. They were leftovers from a framing project.
For years I was able to get by with a set of the ABS plastic lego type blocks sold at Camping world. Until they disintegrated from sun damage.
If on dirt, I dig a hole to drop the high side into to help level.
Lynn and Ed:
You may need additional jack pads if the NH is really unlevel left to right. No problem using pads if you want to. However, the Big Foots, in our experience, will auto extend to the correct length required before they try to level the rig. That is they will come down, you can do it manually in the front as you unhitch, and they will “find” and actually verify they are individually solid on the ground before they try to pick up the rig.
I always extended the ones in front to the ground, unhitched, and then hit the auto button and watched the blinking lights. All four make sure they are solid to the ground, individually, before they attempt to level the rig. They “bump” the hydraulic pumps (one on each leg) and look for back pressure so to speak to make that “I'm solid” determination.
That’s the way ours worked for years and I seldom needed any pads except when the ground was muddy and I didn’t want that mud getting on the hydraulic shafts. Naturally, using pads or building up the pads vertically can't hurt a thing. But the Big Foot system is designed to level the rig under some pretty adverse conditions and you don't need to "pre-level the ground" as some other systems might require.
YMMV
Bill
Larry and Bill, thank you both for your responses!
Bill, I did realize that the Big Foot system would address some of the leveling but also thought there would be times when the system might needs some help--although it would be nice if that was not the case. As I further figure out what will go where in the basement (and in what tubs), I will likely further reduce the number of plywood 12x12s we bring with us ... thanks
.
Lynn and Ed,
Something to consider with regards to plywood. Since they are made up of multiple layers of thinner pieces of wood, those layers could begin to separate once they start getting wet. For that reason, I always use solid wood, regardless of the thickness. However, it should also be mentioned that thinner wood may split easier when pressure is put on them when they are on somewhat uneven ground.
Personally, I use two systems, but have not really tested the second one very well. I use 2-inch blocks of wood that are at least 12"x12" for the first system. The second system is a bunch of pieces cut from a barn stall mat that I picked up at Tractor's Supply. I have about 4 pieces that are 8" wide and 5-feet long and the rest are 8" wide and about a foot long that make up the second system. Why I'm saying that isn't tested is because I've not used them much. I am currently using one of the 5-foot ones under the wheels on one side of the coach to make it more level before extending the leveling legs. I've noticed that when I back up on that strip when it is on concrete, it tends to want to "squish" to one side.
I found the idea for the rubber mats at this location: RV Leveling Blocks Built for Indestructibility
In that article above, he used a hacksaw to cut that barn stall mat. I used one of the utility knives that uses angled razor blades. I had to make multiple cuts to get all the way through, but it makes a cleaner cut than what a hacksaw would.
Once we get moved to Colorado, our wheels won't be on concrete, so I may have to rethink what I do up there.
Terry
Alie & Jims, Bill and Terry, thanks!
Terry, I thought about solid wood jack pads, but decided on the plywood since ideally we will not regularly need them for leveling. Additionally, when the plywood is used they will be placed on top the ABS plastic jack pads, so they should have minimal contact with the ground (although they will be exposed to weather conditions) and benefit from the underlying strength of the ABS plastic. Over time, depending upon how often we need to use the wood jack pads, we might upgrade our wood choice. If it is of interest to you (or others reading the thread) -- the ABS jack pads we purchased are on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPEP7C/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1), but they can also be found otherwise at a better price. I assume these ABS jack pads will provide us with many years of use.
Lynn
I don't know how many we have, but I do know it's too many. All of our blocks were used when we had to level on our old driveway before we sold the house. I keep saying we need to get rid of some of them, I never want to have to level on that steep of a slope again!! One purging battle I have not yet won, but I will
Hey, Ruth!!!
How close are you to the lake?????
Just sayin'.
Terry
I got a 12 foot 2x8 and had the Home Depot guys cut it into 6 sections. We always use one under each jack unless we're sitting on concrete and usually even then I put them in. I've had to put the another one on top of the standard ones exactly once…we had a site that was really low on one rear corner and the Big Foot didn't have enough trail to level. Never used the sixth one. Ours live in the bed of the truck when towing.
You'll definitely need something with a NH…the weight makes the jackpots sink into the ground on grass sites and on asphalt ones when the weather is hot. Gravel they usually won't sink nor on concrete…but we always use them even on concrete. Depending on how much surface area the ones you got have…you might need the wood ones anyway on grass sites to keep you from sinking…particularly if it's rained recently.
We carry a set of similar pads that we got at a rally many years ago. They are still good. Black ABS is supposed to have UV (sun) protection. I destroyed some of the yellow Camco blocks after 3 months in the sun, they discolored and distorted. But those pads are not very thick. Close to the cutting saw at home improvement stores there is often a scrap bin, you can often find nice lumber at a discount there.
Hope this helps.
Reverse the blade..(put it on backwards) on your circular saw....you will get a super clean cut without all the work!!!!!
We carry a couple 2 X 12 X 16s mitered on one end to put under either side or front or back as needed. Any more than that and I look for a better spot. Have used the dig a hole trick too. Sometimes the airbags do the job since they are independently valved.
Only time we wished for more was at the Blue Water Casino in Parker, Az. They built that parking lot on a hill :(
After Margie won $20 on her free play we headed to Walmart for the night...needed to load up for Quartzsite anyway.
Just haven't been enough times to make it worth carrying a bunch of lumber and I'm too cheap to buy "legos".