Hubby took our extra propane tanks to fill yesterday since the forecast is for another round of single digit temps with sub-zero wind chills. Our propane price has doubled since last week and dealer is restricting how much can be sold to one person. Thankfully, we don't use much. But, this is the Ozarks and we had a beautiful day yesterday in the high 50s. Great day to go watch the Bald Eagles.
Lucky Mike said
08:13 AM Jan 26, 2014
ours are over 5 per gallon at the pump right now.........ouch!!!!
Sushidog said
08:27 AM Jan 26, 2014
Yep, supply and demand. However someone should look into who is price gouging. I know that immediately before and after a hurricane down here if hurricane related items like plywood - for boarding up windows, generators or fuel jumps in price they will haul the offenders off to jail for price gouging in an emergency. This arctic vortex should be classed just like a hurricane and the same laws applied. If it costs more to haul in propane from other areas, then a small increase to cover this added transportation cost is understandable, but doubling propane prices because without it people will freeze to death seems to be illegal and immoral profiteering to me.
Chip
sdman said
08:44 AM Jan 26, 2014
We are in south Texas and the price here hasn't changed, yet. Just filled a 30# yesterday afternoon at the same price as a few weeks ago. The cost is $2.78/g here. I was a little worried after seeing all of the news about the price going up. It seems that the price has only gone up in the northern states.
Mark
01zeosix said
09:01 AM Jan 26, 2014
Just got a delivery at the S&B (central South Carolina) this week from a suburban-like company. I'm on a "budget plan" with them and rarely LOOK at the slip they leave but this time I did. $6.49 a gallon. Yup. OVER SIX DOLLARS A GALLON for propane!!!!! I filled one of my 40 pound tanks on my 5th. wheel because it was MT. Believe it, or not but it's now CHEAPER to heat with electricity here. (13 cents per KW.)
Adding a "Cheap Heat" system to my RV next week. I'm not really concerned about the ROI. Peace of mind, I guess. I'm really suffering from propane "Sticker Shock" right now.
Terry and Jo said
09:38 AM Jan 26, 2014
Where we are presently located, we use a leased 120 gallon tank set outside our RV. We had it filled about a month and a half ago and the price was $3.05 per gallon. Had a lot of cold temperatures the last month and we used it down to about 43%, so I had it filled again, partly because of the news of a shortage. That time the price was $3.25 per gallon. Hopefully, this will be the last we need here in Oklahoma City before we move out in July for Colorado. According to the guy at Mountaindale, LPG was $1.80 per gallon in October.
Some of the states are "authorizing" dealers to allow their drivers to work more hours so that there is a better chance of getting everyone filled. I guess the states have gotten to where even bobtail drivers have to keep logs and are limited to how many hours per day they can be driving.
Terry
Alie and Jims Carrilite said
10:16 AM Jan 26, 2014
Just paid $32 for a 40# tank to be filled. So right around $3.30 a gallon. This is the first tank to be filled since October so I think we're doing good on the electric heater.
PIEERE said
03:19 PM Jan 26, 2014
I remember the producers saying that gas was going to be $5.00 per gallon; I guess they forgot to say which gas. Now the watchdogs know that more RV's are selling; it's time to raise the price on rv necessities and accessories!
jayc said
02:08 AM Jan 27, 2014
We've been in the Texas hill country at a state park since October and propane prices have risen steadily since we arrived. For a 40# bottle, they have gone from $30 in Oct. to $34 last Friday. And we've got another round of cold weather coming in a couple of days.
Camper Chronicles said
03:42 AM Jan 27, 2014
We use propane to partially heat our house in the northeast. No natural gas up here unfortunately. With the -2 temperatures we have been going through more than normal which may be what's driving the prices up. As someone else said supply and demand.
01zeosix said
10:08 AM Jan 27, 2014
20# Cylinder - 5 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 40 pounds when full
Holds 20 pounds of propane (4.7 gallons of propane)
Contains 430,000 BTU when full
30# Cylinder - 7 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 55 pounds when full
Holds 30 pounds of propane (7 gallons of propane)
Contains 640,500 BTU when full
40# Cylinder - 10 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 70 pounds when full
Holds 40 pounds of propane (9.4 gallons of propane)
Contains 860,100 BTU when full
100# Cylinder - 25 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 170 pounds when full
Holds 100 pounds of propane (23.6 gallons of propane)
Contains 2,159,400 BTU when full
Hope this helps some. Stay warm everybody!!!
Mark V said
01:44 PM Jan 27, 2014
I was looking at a few videos about wood stoves, and Kimberly wood stoves in particular. I found them to be an interesting alternative. Anyone here have any experience with a wood burning stove in an RV?
I was looking at a few videos about wood stoves, and Kimberly wood stoves in particular. I found them to be an interesting alternative. Anyone here have any experience with a wood burning stove in an RV?
Mark, I have read a bit about Kimberly and a couple of other stoves, many people have a fear connected with his type of heating for an RV, most of the fear comes from unfamiliarity......if installed properly and used properly it would be a good choice, the boating community has been using them for years.....hauling around firewood is a bit of a concern but the Kimberly is very efficient and does not take or require large logs.....
Mark V said
03:35 PM Jan 28, 2014
Thanks Gene. It's definitely something that we'll be looking into when we decide to make the move. I imagine that for boondocking in forested areas, it would be a great utility.
mpierce said
08:04 PM Jan 28, 2014
Mark V wrote:
I was looking at a few videos about wood stoves, and Kimberly wood stoves in particular. I found them to be an interesting alternative. Anyone here have any experience with a wood burning stove in an RV?
Looks good, but not cheap at $3750! Plus vent pipe.
Mark V said
01:57 PM Jan 29, 2014
Another alternative would be an EVoY Pro 2400 D, but that's an even pricier option. The upside is that per whatever measure of electricity you care to use the comparable cost, size, and weight of methanol is far superior to LPG, and there are absolutely no emissions and they run in silence.
bjoyce said
02:36 PM Jan 29, 2014
I don't see methanol being dispensed in places like campgrounds or gas stations, so you would have to be static to get cost effective delivery. Of course, wood for stoves is not easy or cheap to get everywhere either. Where do you store the wood in an RV, it takes up a lot of room, is heavy, can hold insects and attract pests? We also have burn bans quite often out West, so you can't use it all the time.
NWescapee said
03:29 PM Jan 29, 2014
One other issue of firewood, if you're trying to transport it, there are parks / states that do not want you bringing wood from another locations. Many of the state / county parks we've been to in the past couple of years have signs posted against using anything other than locally procured firewood, they don't want you bringing bugs / pests / disease from other areas.
California has agricultural checkpoints when entering the state, years past they always asked if we had any fruit or veggies that was homegrown or bought at a farmer's market. This past September when we entered California, they asked if we were bringing in any firewood, it's not allowed. We didn't have any but a TT a couple aisles over at the checkpoint was having to unload the firewood from their pickup truck.
Mark V said
04:39 PM Jan 29, 2014
bjoyce wrote:
I don't see methanol being dispensed in places like campgrounds or gas stations, so you would have to be static to get cost effective delivery. T
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Two of these will last a real long time, and they take up very little space:
Another alternative would be an EVoY Pro 2400 D, but that's an even pricier option. The upside is that per whatever measure of electricity you care to use the comparable cost, size, and weight of methanol is far superior to LPG, and there are absolutely no emissions and they run in silence.
ALL hydrocarbons have emissions and methanol is toxic to mammals. Not something I would carry around in an RV.
Barb
bjoyce said
08:47 PM Jan 29, 2014
Ethanol is much better to carry around, but I don't carry it pure and I don't use it for fuel.
WestWardHo said
08:59 PM Jan 29, 2014
Laughing with you, Bill!!!
Sherry & Jesse
-- Edited by WestWardHo on Wednesday 29th of January 2014 09:00:12 PM
Hubby took our extra propane tanks to fill yesterday since the forecast is for another round of single digit temps with sub-zero wind chills. Our propane price has doubled since last week and dealer is restricting how much can be sold to one person. Thankfully, we don't use much. But, this is the Ozarks and we had a beautiful day yesterday in the high 50s. Great day to go watch the Bald Eagles.
Chip
We are in south Texas and the price here hasn't changed, yet. Just filled a 30# yesterday afternoon at the same price as a few weeks ago. The cost is $2.78/g here. I was a little worried after seeing all of the news about the price going up. It seems that the price has only gone up in the northern states.
Mark
Adding a "Cheap Heat" system to my RV next week. I'm not really concerned about the ROI. Peace of mind, I guess. I'm really suffering from propane "Sticker Shock" right now.
Where we are presently located, we use a leased 120 gallon tank set outside our RV. We had it filled about a month and a half ago and the price was $3.05 per gallon. Had a lot of cold temperatures the last month and we used it down to about 43%, so I had it filled again, partly because of the news of a shortage. That time the price was $3.25 per gallon. Hopefully, this will be the last we need here in Oklahoma City before we move out in July for Colorado. According to the guy at Mountaindale, LPG was $1.80 per gallon in October.
Some of the states are "authorizing" dealers to allow their drivers to work more hours so that there is a better chance of getting everyone filled. I guess the states have gotten to where even bobtail drivers have to keep logs and are limited to how many hours per day they can be driving.
Terry
Filled by weight - weighs about 40 pounds when full
Holds 20 pounds of propane (4.7 gallons of propane)
Contains 430,000 BTU when full
30# Cylinder - 7 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 55 pounds when full
Holds 30 pounds of propane (7 gallons of propane)
Contains 640,500 BTU when full
40# Cylinder - 10 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 70 pounds when full
Holds 40 pounds of propane (9.4 gallons of propane)
Contains 860,100 BTU when full
100# Cylinder - 25 Gallon Bottle
Filled by weight - weighs about 170 pounds when full
Holds 100 pounds of propane (23.6 gallons of propane)
Contains 2,159,400 BTU when full
Hope this helps some. Stay warm everybody!!!
I was looking at a few videos about wood stoves, and Kimberly wood stoves in particular. I found them to be an interesting alternative. Anyone here have any experience with a wood burning stove in an RV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri6SY9zqiao
Mark, I have read a bit about Kimberly and a couple of other stoves, many people have a fear connected with his type of heating for an RV, most of the fear comes from unfamiliarity......if installed properly and used properly it would be a good choice, the boating community has been using them for years.....hauling around firewood is a bit of a concern but the Kimberly is very efficient and does not take or require large logs.....
Thanks Gene. It's definitely something that we'll be looking into when we decide to make the move. I imagine that for boondocking in forested areas, it would be a great utility.
Looks good, but not cheap at $3750! Plus vent pipe.
Another alternative would be an EVoY Pro 2400 D, but that's an even pricier option. The upside is that per whatever measure of electricity you care to use the comparable cost, size, and weight of methanol is far superior to LPG, and there are absolutely no emissions and they run in silence.
California has agricultural checkpoints when entering the state, years past they always asked if we had any fruit or veggies that was homegrown or bought at a farmer's market. This past September when we entered California, they asked if we were bringing in any firewood, it's not allowed. We didn't have any but a TT a couple aisles over at the checkpoint was having to unload the firewood from their pickup truck.
ALL hydrocarbons have emissions and methanol is toxic to mammals. Not something I would carry around in an RV.
Barb
Laughing with you, Bill!!!
Sherry & Jesse
-- Edited by WestWardHo on Wednesday 29th of January 2014 09:00:12 PM