Just wondering if any of you know much about the Heartland Sundance. Been looking online and at dealerships and seem to be drawn to this fifth wheel. We like the layouts and the price but was wondering if they are actually good for full time living. We still have 4 years to go before we can full time but like to research to make sure we get what we need and can afford. We also are looking at something around 30 foot or maybe a little less as we don't want to pull a huge rig and we want to be able to camp at State and Federal parks. Any imput and opinions from others would be greatly appriciated. Again we are in no big hurry to buy, just want to make sure we get what is right for us and what we can afford.
dewwood said
02:09 PM May 9, 2013
We have a Sundance and have been very happy with it. We do not full time but take extended trips up to a couple of months at a time. Last year we were in Yellowstone a week or two later than this and had snow every day with temps overnight dipping into the twenties and high teens with no problems. I think our Sundance is a good unit for the price point it is in. Ours is thirty feet and we have found that we can get into most places but not all. Some places measure the fiver and tow vehicle when calculating overall length.
Would I full time in my Sundance? I would if I could not afford a higher price point unit. The things you would get with a higher price point are more insulation, larger holding tanks(although we have found we can go several days), possibly better appointments as far as fit and finish and ten to fifty thousand more dollars invested. Now for that additional money you would get some amenities that are very nice but not absolutely necessary. We have discussed going full time but will probably never do that so the Sundance is a very good unit for us. There are a lot of people full timing in units not nearly as nice as the Sundance.
Hope this helps.
jayc said
12:43 PM May 10, 2013
I know some couples that full time in a Sundance and they like them. Check out the Heartland Owners forum for more information. You will talk to other owners there. It is also a great resource for general information and free to join.
Bobbi said
01:11 PM May 22, 2013
May I suggest looking for a rig that is insulated better if you want to use it for full-timing. Heartland does offer upgraded insulation on some of their units, but I don't believe the Sundance to be one of them. Of course, you'll want to verify that by looking under the Options section of the Sundance brochure. I believe they offer upgraded insulation on the Big Country, Bighorn and Landmark, plus their upper end toy haulers.
kb0zke said
11:29 PM May 23, 2013
Bobbi is correct. Only the Big Country, Bighorn, and Landmark are rated for full-time use. Since we weren't interested in the toyhaulers, we didn't ask about them.
nessa9566 said
04:06 AM May 25, 2013
Thank you for all the input. I have done some more research and as suggested have changed my mind and we are now looking at the Bighorns. Layout isn't much different then the Sundance but seems to be more for full timing. We definitely have decided on a Heartland product.
Lucky Mike said
04:32 AM May 25, 2013
........Heartland makes some nice units, there are alot of good deals on used ones around to!!
jayc said
09:21 PM May 25, 2013
We began our full timing adventures in a Bighorn and loved it. We have since moved up to a Landmark and it is the best trailer that we've ever had. Good luck with your choice.
Hope to see you on the road somewhere.
RVKevi said
01:45 AM May 26, 2013
We're full-timing in a 2011 Big Horn and absolutely love it!!
jayc said
12:01 PM May 26, 2013
This is interesting. I followed your blog for a long time but when my computer crashed I lost all. Since seeing your post here, I can now follow you again.
Bobbi said
02:54 PM May 29, 2013
We also really like the Bighorn, Big Country and Landmark. We have finally settled (I think!...lol) on toy haulers, and the Heartland Cyclone with the upgraded insulation is on our list. Before we decided on a toy hauler, we were interested the Bighorn or Big Country with upgraded insulation.
I believe, and please do verify this, that you'll need a 2012 or newer model Bighorn with the Canadian Arctic Package or Yeti Package for the best/effective insulation. I have done a ton of research on well-insulated RVs for over two years, and I recommend you spend adequate time researching as well. It's a lot of work, but I believe the payoff to be worth it. See if you can locate and download the last five years of Heartland brochures for the model(s) you are interested in and compare the insulation values and insulation packages available each year. There could be an error in my records.
Otherwise, prior years' insulation values are, if my data is correct, R-23 roof, R-35 floor (not bad), and the usual R-9 or R-11 walls depending upon year. They continued to make changes. It certainly wouldn't hurt to call Heartland and ask for the rep for the unit you are most interested in.
I also recommend perusing the Heartland owners' forum and read, read, read. Any apparent big problems will appear in patterns of complaints, plus you get feedback from actual owners. There is a subforum for the Bighorn as there is for each brand under the Heartland "umbrella". Here's a start for you:http://www.heartlandowners.org/forum.php
Scroll down to the heading titled "Heartland Brand Communities." Bighorn is the first one under that. Anyhow...sorry for the rambling, and good luck!
Just wondering if any of you know much about the Heartland Sundance. Been looking online and at dealerships and seem to be drawn to this fifth wheel. We like the layouts and the price but was wondering if they are actually good for full time living. We still have 4 years to go before we can full time but like to research to make sure we get what we need and can afford. We also are looking at something around 30 foot or maybe a little less as we don't want to pull a huge rig and we want to be able to camp at State and Federal parks. Any imput and opinions from others would be greatly appriciated. Again we are in no big hurry to buy, just want to make sure we get what is right for us and what we can afford.
We have a Sundance and have been very happy with it. We do not full time but take extended trips up to a couple of months at a time. Last year we were in Yellowstone a week or two later than this and had snow every day with temps overnight dipping into the twenties and high teens with no problems. I think our Sundance is a good unit for the price point it is in. Ours is thirty feet and we have found that we can get into most places but not all. Some places measure the fiver and tow vehicle when calculating overall length.
Would I full time in my Sundance? I would if I could not afford a higher price point unit. The things you would get with a higher price point are more insulation, larger holding tanks(although we have found we can go several days), possibly better appointments as far as fit and finish and ten to fifty thousand more dollars invested. Now for that additional money you would get some amenities that are very nice but not absolutely necessary. We have discussed going full time but will probably never do that so the Sundance is a very good unit for us. There are a lot of people full timing in units not nearly as nice as the Sundance.
Hope this helps.
I know some couples that full time in a Sundance and they like them. Check out the Heartland Owners forum for more information. You will talk to other owners there. It is also a great resource for general information and free to join.
We began our full timing adventures in a Bighorn and loved it. We have since moved up to a Landmark and it is the best trailer that we've ever had. Good luck with your choice.
Hope to see you on the road somewhere.
We also really like the Bighorn, Big Country and Landmark. We have finally settled (I think!...lol) on toy haulers, and the Heartland Cyclone with the upgraded insulation is on our list. Before we decided on a toy hauler, we were interested the Bighorn or Big Country with upgraded insulation.
I believe, and please do verify this, that you'll need a 2012 or newer model Bighorn with the Canadian Arctic Package or Yeti Package for the best/effective insulation. I have done a ton of research on well-insulated RVs for over two years, and I recommend you spend adequate time researching as well. It's a lot of work, but I believe the payoff to be worth it. See if you can locate and download the last five years of Heartland brochures for the model(s) you are interested in and compare the insulation values and insulation packages available each year. There could be an error in my records.
Otherwise, prior years' insulation values are, if my data is correct, R-23 roof, R-35 floor (not bad), and the usual R-9 or R-11 walls depending upon year. They continued to make changes. It certainly wouldn't hurt to call Heartland and ask for the rep for the unit you are most interested in.
I also recommend perusing the Heartland owners' forum and read, read, read. Any apparent big problems will appear in patterns of complaints, plus you get feedback from actual owners. There is a subforum for the Bighorn as there is for each brand under the Heartland "umbrella". Here's a start for you:http://www.heartlandowners.org/forum.php
Scroll down to the heading titled "Heartland Brand Communities." Bighorn is the first one under that. Anyhow...sorry for the rambling, and good luck!