The double pane windows in my 2006 DRV Mobile Suites are beginning to fogg up badly. I presume due to losing the seal between the panes of glass. I am now researching the repair or replacement of all windows.
Full time neighbors here in the RV park have single pane windows in their 5th wheel and find them to be satisfactory. What are your thoughts on single pane windows?
I'll appreciate any suggestions on where to read more on this subject.
Thanks,
Dick
igotjam said
05:59 AM Dec 1, 2012
Had RVs for almost 6 years with dual panes. (Elite Suite for 4 of the 6) In that time I have replaced 7 windows. Its a pain and costly to do replacements but duals keep it quiet inside as well as the insulation factor. If I didn't live in Canada 6 months of the year I think I would go for singles but there are tradeoffs. I think my experience is typical....1 per year on average. JUst build that into your cost/benefit equation.
Terry and Jo said
08:49 AM Dec 1, 2012
There is a business in Arkansas (yeah, I know it's not helpful for you in Maine) that repairs fogged windows. While I have heard that they can't do the windows in a Mobile Suites (don't know why), here is a link that gives you an idea of the process done by them there in Arkansas. The business is called RV Fog Doctor.
There are two different forum websites for DRV products that might be of help, although one of them is down because they have been spammed by hundreds of "new user requests." One that is still working is called 5th Wheel Forums and while it is a site for many brands of RV's, the most usage of the forums is in the Suites section.
At least for now, you could browse through the 5th Wheel Forums site to see what is there to find that is related to fixing fogged windows or replacing them.
Good luck.
Terry
lindy said
06:29 PM Dec 1, 2012
The RV Fog Dr. site shows them doing frame style windows, with DRV's framesless windows I would think that it would be a total different process, that being why RV Fog Dr. doesn't do DRV windows maybe?
Bill and Linda said
07:39 PM Dec 1, 2012
The double panes in our KZ Escalade are now 6 years old and are doing fine.‘Just a point of reference FWIW
I would not recommend going to single pane windows due to sweating issues as well as the significant improvement dual pane window give for insulation in three ways: heating and cooling and sound.The sound insulation is something most don’t consider.Dual pane windows offer significant isolation from road and other external noise which are an issue from time to time.Had both types, will never go back to single pane.
I would have them fixed if it were me.
Our 2 cents
Bill
Terry and Jo said
07:52 PM Dec 1, 2012
lindy wrote:
The RV Fog Dr. site shows them doing frame style windows, with DRV's framesless windows I would think that it would be a total different process, that being why RV Fog Dr. doesn't do DRV windows maybe?
You may be right, Lindy.
My mention that RV Fog Doctor didn't do DRV windows was based on one comment by one forum participant on 5th Wheel Forum's website.
Terry
RickandJanice said
04:09 PM Dec 2, 2012
We will also need to repair / replace our double pane rear picture window in the near future. Here are some other locations that do this type of work:
-- Edited by Terry and Jo on Sunday 2nd of December 2012 06:06:46 PM
Maine Guide said
05:41 PM Dec 2, 2012
Thank you all.....
My 2006 Mobile Suites has frame style windows. I've already begun to peruse the web sites you've suggested and will read all I can find on the subject. I'll most likely end up with double panes but I'm also intrigued by the idea of single pane windows.
Any further thoughts on the issue of single pane windows sweating? I anticipate this might occur when it's cold outside and warm inside? That would happen every night wouldn't it? I'll also ask my neighbors across the way what their experience has been over the last three years while they have lived fulltime in their unit. I visited their unit earlier this week and had to touch a window to know it even existed.....it was soooo clear!
I never considered that noise would be a concern since I have a secret solution for that...... I simply remove my hearing aids and my rig is as quiet as quiet can be. 😃.
Thanks again,
Dick
Jack Mayer said
08:52 PM Dec 2, 2012
There is a WORLD of difference between double and single pane windows. We have had them both.
If you are going to the expense of replacing windows I think it would be a mistake spending all that money on single pane windows....but perhaps I misunderstand what you are trying to accomplish.
Maine Guide said
11:20 PM Dec 2, 2012
Well....... The verdict is in and it will be Double Pane Windows before too long. First priority is new tires and next on the list will be the windows.
I met with my neighbors this morning and they have single panes.
1. Sound.... Yes, you can even enjoy the birds in the early morning. And, if you choose the right parking lot.... "Welcome K-Mart Shoppers." 😳
2. Moisture.... Yes, cold outside & warm inside equals moisture... and clean windows as you remove the condensation.
3. Better insulation.... Yes, certainly.
Any further thoughts on repair existing windows vs replacement???
Thank you once again to all who have replied.
Dick Registered Maine Guide and Fulltime RV Traveler
Terry and Jo said
02:10 AM Dec 3, 2012
Dick,
I "almost" wish I had your ability of removing the hearing aid to quiet things down. While the Mobile Suites is very good with sound insulation, when one is only about 100 to 150 yards from a major interstate, as we are, it can get a bit noisy. We'd consider moving, but the lot rent in this little mobile home park is just too cheap to sneeze at, and it is also within three miles of work.
I think you will be glad you went with dual pane windows. I know that we are pleased with the one in our 2010.
Terry
Maine Guide said
04:11 AM Dec 3, 2012
RickandJanice wrote:
We will also need to repair / replace our double pane rear picture window in the near future. Here are some other locations that do this type of work:
-- Edited by Terry and Jo on Sunday 2nd of December 2012 06:06:46 PM
Rick & Janice,
Thank you for the repair facility links. I have reviewed all three websites and Suncoast Designers is very appealing to me and located about 50 miles from where we intend to visit in Florida later this winter. I'll contact them this week and continue this interesting journey of investigation. 😊
Well... interesting until its "checkbook time." 😰
RickandJanice said
02:30 AM Dec 4, 2012
Terry,thank you for making the we sites in my post into actual links. Could not figure that one out to save me! You really do a fine job monitoring posts and helping people out. Thanks again.
Dick, Good luck in your search, will be interested in hearing what you decide and how things turn out. Please update everyone when done?
Cindy T said
03:25 PM Dec 4, 2012
We had single panes in all our previous RVs and now have dual panes in our Mobile Suites. I'd never go back to single pane. I've really noticed the difference in sound insulation. Other RVers who have come into our rig have mentioned how much quieter it is. Also the hot/cold/sweating is not a problem with the dual panes.
There is a business in Arkansas (yeah, I know it's not helpful for you in Maine) that repairs fogged windows. While I have heard that they can't do the windows in a Mobile Suites (don't know why), here is a link that gives you an idea of the process done by them there in Arkansas. The business is called RV Fog Doctor.
RV Fog Doctor
There are two different forum websites for DRV products that might be of help, although one of them is down because they have been spammed by hundreds of "new user requests." One that is still working is called 5th Wheel Forums and while it is a site for many brands of RV's, the most usage of the forums is in the Suites section.
The one that is down because of the spamming is called Suites Owners International Travel Club (SOITC).
At least for now, you could browse through the 5th Wheel Forums site to see what is there to find that is related to fixing fogged windows or replacing them.
Good luck.
Terry
The double panes in our KZ Escalade are now 6 years old and are doing fine. ‘Just a point of reference FWIW
I would not recommend going to single pane windows due to sweating issues as well as the significant improvement dual pane window give for insulation in three ways: heating and cooling and sound. The sound insulation is something most don’t consider. Dual pane windows offer significant isolation from road and other external noise which are an issue from time to time. Had both types, will never go back to single pane.
I would have them fixed if it were me.
Our 2 cents
Bill
You may be right, Lindy.
My mention that RV Fog Doctor didn't do DRV windows was based on one comment by one forum participant on 5th Wheel Forum's website.
Terry
We will also need to repair / replace our double pane rear picture window in the near future. Here are some other locations that do this type of work:
http://www.suncoastdesigners.com/
http://duncansys.com/fogged-glass/
http://www.motionwindows.com/rv_window_repair.php
Edit by moderator: Activated link. Terry
-- Edited by Terry and Jo on Sunday 2nd of December 2012 06:06:46 PM
My 2006 Mobile Suites has frame style windows. I've already begun to peruse the web sites you've suggested and will read all I can find on the subject. I'll most likely end up with double panes but I'm also intrigued by the idea of single pane windows.
Any further thoughts on the issue of single pane windows sweating? I anticipate this might occur when it's cold outside and warm inside? That would happen every night wouldn't it? I'll also ask my neighbors across the way what their experience has been over the last three years while they have lived fulltime in their unit. I visited their unit earlier this week and had to touch a window to know it even existed.....it was soooo clear!
I never considered that noise would be a concern since I have a secret solution for that...... I simply remove my hearing aids and my rig is as quiet as quiet can be. 😃.
Thanks again,
Dick
If you are going to the expense of replacing windows I think it would be a mistake spending all that money on single pane windows....but perhaps I misunderstand what you are trying to accomplish.
I met with my neighbors this morning and they have single panes.
1. Sound.... Yes, you can even enjoy the birds in the early morning. And, if you choose the right parking lot.... "Welcome K-Mart Shoppers." 😳
2. Moisture.... Yes, cold outside & warm inside equals moisture... and clean windows as you remove the condensation.
3. Better insulation.... Yes, certainly.
Any further thoughts on repair existing windows vs replacement???
Thank you once again to all who have replied.
Dick
Registered Maine Guide and Fulltime RV Traveler
Dick,
I "almost" wish I had your ability of removing the hearing aid to quiet things down. While the Mobile Suites is very good with sound insulation, when one is only about 100 to 150 yards from a major interstate, as we are, it can get a bit noisy. We'd consider moving, but the lot rent in this little mobile home park is just too cheap to sneeze at, and it is also within three miles of work.
I think you will be glad you went with dual pane windows. I know that we are pleased with the one in our 2010.
Terry
Dick, Good luck in your search, will be interested in hearing what you decide and how things turn out. Please update everyone when done?
We had single panes in all our previous RVs and now have dual panes in our Mobile Suites. I'd never go back to single pane. I've really noticed the difference in sound insulation. Other RVers who have come into our rig have mentioned how much quieter it is. Also the hot/cold/sweating is not a problem with the dual panes.