2 questions? cab & chassis or bed, & lifetime warranties
Joelnlori said
02:09 AM May 1, 2012
What can you tell me about the benefits of a lifetime warranty some dealers offer with new trucks? All scheduled maintenace must be performed by ase certified mechanic on time and pre-approved if not at dealer of purchase (which won't be possible). does this include rotating tires on a dually? do you rotate dually tires regularly? (3 questions already)
Secondly (or 4thly) If I were to prefer a flat bed or CM hauler bed, would I be better off with a cab&chassis instead of stock bed? Are the tow and load capacity equal or better? Any idea how much more a steel flat might weigh? I know they have larger fuel capacity, and Ram chassis has urea, and normal bed does not...is the urea helping or hurting Ram chassis? I am planning on a 1 ton dually to carry my future 5vr which will probably .be in the 16 to 18 thousand range when loaded. I have lots of questions about that too, but will get into that later. I am still not sure which 'brand' of truck to get, and I have driven them all. what a good problem to have!
Terry and Jo said
05:14 AM May 1, 2012
Joel,
You will get every answer imaginable, so sit back and wait. Then you can get a variety of ideas to pursue.
Some folks prefer a pickup bed as opposed to a flat bed. (I'm one of those.)
Lifetime warranties? Read all you can about those because they very well may be "limited" warranties. As such, it is unlikely that they would cover tire rotation. As for rotating tires on dual rear wheel trucks, I don't ever recall ever reading about that anywhere. (Maybe I need to expand my list of areas to read.)
As for tow and hauling capacities, I can only speak to my own research back a couple of years ago. We have a Ford F450. At the time I was researching, the Ford F450 actually had a higher towing capacity and Gross Combined Vehicular Weight (GCVW) rating than the Ford F550 had. I have no idea how those numbers would compare today. The F550 was the cab/chassis style truck.
My F450 is a 2008 model, so no urea. Sorry, I don't have an answer for you on that one.
When researching for your truck, do not allow a salesman to sell you on a truck based on "towing weight." Make them show you that vehicle's GCVW rating. At the time I was looking, neither GM nor Dodge would publish those numbers in their brochures, although they may have changed since then.
Terry
Bill and Linda said
07:38 PM May 1, 2012
Order with a stock bed pickup bed for a lot of reasons, including so you get a spare tire carrier and they don’t de-rate the engine due to a bed-delete being considered a “commercial” application.Then remove it.
I have just done all this you asked about and if you want to discuss it PM me and I will fill you in.Way too many questions and information for a forum answer.It depends and there are many good, and not so good, options out there.All new trucks, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, or Peterbilt for that matter, require Urea for the EPA just like in Europe.So we all just need to “get over it” like we did with catalytic converters in the 70’s.
You will want a “1 Ton” Dully regardless of the brand. I have the current numbers for truck ratings having just done all this.
Bill
RVKevi said
12:54 AM May 2, 2012
Actually, the 2012 Dodge Rams still don't require the Urea, but the 2013s will.
Bill and Linda said
01:24 AM May 2, 2012
RVKevi wrote:
Actually, the 2012 Dodge Rams still don't require the Urea, but the 2013s will.
That is true and good point. If you purchase soon, and urea is a criteria, the 2012's are still an option for a little while. As you say the 2013 Dodge will require urea.
What can you tell me about the benefits of a lifetime warranty some dealers offer with new trucks? All scheduled maintenace must be performed by ase certified mechanic on time and pre-approved if not at dealer of purchase (which won't be possible). does this include rotating tires on a dually? do you rotate dually tires regularly? (3 questions already)
Secondly (or 4thly) If I were to prefer a flat bed or CM hauler bed, would I be better off with a cab&chassis instead of stock bed? Are the tow and load capacity equal or better? Any idea how much more a steel flat might weigh? I know they have larger fuel capacity, and Ram chassis has urea, and normal bed does not...is the urea helping or hurting Ram chassis? I am planning on a 1 ton dually to carry my future 5vr which will probably .be in the 16 to 18 thousand range when loaded. I have lots of questions about that too, but will get into that later. I am still not sure which 'brand' of truck to get, and I have driven them all. what a good problem to have!
Joel,
You will get every answer imaginable, so sit back and wait. Then you can get a variety of ideas to pursue.
Some folks prefer a pickup bed as opposed to a flat bed. (I'm one of those.)
Lifetime warranties? Read all you can about those because they very well may be "limited" warranties. As such, it is unlikely that they would cover tire rotation. As for rotating tires on dual rear wheel trucks, I don't ever recall ever reading about that anywhere. (Maybe I need to expand my list of areas to read.)
As for tow and hauling capacities, I can only speak to my own research back a couple of years ago. We have a Ford F450. At the time I was researching, the Ford F450 actually had a higher towing capacity and Gross Combined Vehicular Weight (GCVW) rating than the Ford F550 had. I have no idea how those numbers would compare today. The F550 was the cab/chassis style truck.
My F450 is a 2008 model, so no urea. Sorry, I don't have an answer for you on that one.
When researching for your truck, do not allow a salesman to sell you on a truck based on "towing weight." Make them show you that vehicle's GCVW rating. At the time I was looking, neither GM nor Dodge would publish those numbers in their brochures, although they may have changed since then.
Terry
Order with a stock bed pickup bed for a lot of reasons, including so you get a spare tire carrier and they don’t de-rate the engine due to a bed-delete being considered a “commercial” application. Then remove it.
I have just done all this you asked about and if you want to discuss it PM me and I will fill you in. Way too many questions and information for a forum answer. It depends and there are many good, and not so good, options out there. All new trucks, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, or Peterbilt for that matter, require Urea for the EPA just like in Europe. So we all just need to “get over it” like we did with catalytic converters in the 70’s.
You will want a “1 Ton” Dully regardless of the brand. I have the current numbers for truck ratings having just done all this.
Bill
That is true and good point. If you purchase soon, and urea is a criteria, the 2012's are still an option for a little while. As you say the 2013 Dodge will require urea.
Bill