Might I ask why you want to switch, and what sort of MH you have? We're still learning, trying to decide what we want for our full-time coach when I retire, and we're interested in hearing other people's logic about why they made the decision they did. Our situation may not be the same as yours, but we often learn of yet another question that we need to answer as we narrow down our choices.
Yes, we own a Heartland product and are part of the Heartland Owner's Group.
EDIT by Moderator: Activated link Terry
-- Edited by Terry and Jo on Sunday 5th of February 2012 08:18:04 PM
Byrdy said
12:57 AM Feb 6, 2012
Does anyone have a quality rating for this 5er. How does it compare to other 5ers manufactures quality. R value (insulation). Any pros and cons. I like the looke of it but eye candy is only a small cosideration. I want to switch from MH too 5er
Terry and Jo said
04:35 AM Feb 6, 2012
David,
I can't speak to Byrdy's reasons for switching, but I'll mention a couple of things that led us to get a fifth wheel other than a motorhome, even though we researched and considered both types.
In our case, we wanted a sense of different rooms in more of a way than a motorhome gave us. Also, we have the option of still using the tow vehicle as a "get-around" vehicle.
Our case is different though in that we are static full-timers and are still working until retirement. If we had a motorhome and toad, if we needed to go more than one direction on a given day, we would have been out of luck unless I wanted to go the the doctor in a 42' Tiffin Phaeton.
Also, since we chose a Mobile Suites, it has a greater "R" value than what I've seen in most motorhomes. Again, because we are living in Oklahoma City and we do get some cold temperatures, that was important to us. Had it been that we were looking at lesser fifth wheels instead of the Mobile Suites, the "R" factor would not have been a factor.
Oh, and it was a lot cheaper to buy the Mobile Suites and a used Ford F450 than it was to buy the Phaeton.
Terry
Bill Adams said
06:47 AM Feb 6, 2012
Terry, I am confused. How does the need to go more than one direction change if you have a parked 5th wheel with a tow vehicle or a parked motor home with a toad. I still only see one usable vehicle for errands so I must be missing something.
PD CFK said
10:58 AM Feb 6, 2012
Terry, By lesser fifth wheels, I'm sure you meant "less expensive" :)
We love our Cameo and it is well built and also well insulated for a fifth wheel; while also offering ample storage and under belly a/c heat circulation. We've had a good experience with it and only a few "issues". Looking for the right fit in a RV, is not something to rush. As a newbie, one needs to take time to study what other people are saying about their experiences and then gleen from that to narrow your search.
We felt the same about the fifth wheel floor plan offering a feeling of separated areas and it works for us. The only thing I miss when we are out on the road is my bath tub!
But, hey, we still get whip-lash whenever a tag-axle Phaeton passes by! PK
Bill Adams said
12:18 PM Feb 6, 2012
Bill,
I should have pointed out that we have a second vehicle. So we have our tow vehicle plus a "tag-along or scout" vehicle. With that configuration of vehicles, we can go separate directions. Remember that we are "static" full-timers.
OK, so that explains the 2nd vehicle but I still am not sure how that makes a difference between MH and 5th wheel unless you are triple towing the 2nd vehicle.
-- Edited by Bill Adams on Monday 6th of February 2012 12:20:49 PM
Terry and Jo said
04:25 PM Feb 6, 2012
Bill,
I should have pointed out that we have a second vehicle. So we have our tow vehicle plus a "tag-along or scout" vehicle. With that configuration of vehicles, we can go separate directions. Remember that we are "static" full-timers.
PK,
The DRV models of Elite Suites and Mobile Suites have 15" frames and 3 1/4" walls. So, we have what I consider to be a better AND more expensive coach.
Carriage was one of the brands we considered, but Carriage wouldn't "alter or modify" any of their models to suit our desires, where DRV would. Also, while it is cosmetic, the fit and finish of the DRV's seemed to be better, at least to us.
Oh, and should you ever decide to change fivers, DRV offers a tub.
Terry
Byrdy said
06:44 PM Feb 6, 2012
Might I ask why you want to switch, and what sort of MH you have?
Roomier is my ownly reason. We have a 2008 Goergetown DS 315 SE, Not a single compaint on this MH only have 8000 miles on it. Want to change while milage is so low, have it up for sale now
James and Cindy said
02:23 AM Feb 7, 2012
Byrdy, I have 2 co-workers that own cyclones. One has the 3010 and the other has the 3950. The 3010 was bought at RV Wholesalers in Ohio. It was a better price. He has not had any issues so far. The 3950 has had minor issues only. The owner said August was too hot for both ac units to keep the unit comfortable. That was in Louisiana with no trees in the rv park. I have been looking at toy haulers also. It is hard to find a high end toy hauler that fits our needs.
James
Delaine and Lindy said
03:02 AM Feb 8, 2012
The Heartland owners forum will give you plenty of information. Also Jim Beletti is the owners rep and will answer any questions you may have in reference to Heartland RV's. I also agree with Terry went to the Tampa RV show in 2009 and 2010 looking to buy a Motor Home, but each time we just kept going back to the 5th wheels. In Jan. 2012 we really didn't attend the show looking to buy a new Motor Home. Number one for us was cost, for our wants and needs nothing under $250,000 can be found.
And like Terry we also own a Mobile Suites and we in fact did double tow for over two years. We towed the Mobile Suites and a Chevy HHR behind the Suites. Due to not be able to stay under 65' (we were 75') we decide to go back to the 2012 Chevy 3500HD DRW's and Delaine drives the Tahoe to our Florida site. But with the ride of the 2012 Chevy we will probably not bring the Tahoe next winter...
We don't bring toys when traveling, to many restrictions for ATV, etc and I much prefer my John Deere Gator vs ATV. So we really never though much about a Toy Hauler.... We are pleased with our choice of a Mobile Suites, and can buy two Mobile Suites + vs a Motor Home.. But its a choice. Be happy..... Happy Trails....
Here's the link to the current 3010 http://heartlandrvs.com/index.php?p=35&c=toyhaulers&sc=CYC&i=CY+3010&view=floorplans&fcmd=showfplan which includes the R values. Heartland seems to have good customer service, and there is an active owners' club.
Might I ask why you want to switch, and what sort of MH you have? We're still learning, trying to decide what we want for our full-time coach when I retire, and we're interested in hearing other people's logic about why they made the decision they did. Our situation may not be the same as yours, but we often learn of yet another question that we need to answer as we narrow down our choices.
Yes, we own a Heartland product and are part of the Heartland Owner's Group.
EDIT by Moderator: Activated link Terry
-- Edited by Terry and Jo on Sunday 5th of February 2012 08:18:04 PM
Does anyone have a quality rating for this 5er. How does it compare to other 5ers manufactures quality. R value (insulation). Any pros and cons. I like the looke of it but eye candy is only a small cosideration. I want to switch from MH too 5er
David,
I can't speak to Byrdy's reasons for switching, but I'll mention a couple of things that led us to get a fifth wheel other than a motorhome, even though we researched and considered both types.
In our case, we wanted a sense of different rooms in more of a way than a motorhome gave us. Also, we have the option of still using the tow vehicle as a "get-around" vehicle.
Our case is different though in that we are static full-timers and are still working until retirement. If we had a motorhome and toad, if we needed to go more than one direction on a given day, we would have been out of luck unless I wanted to go the the doctor in a 42' Tiffin Phaeton.
Also, since we chose a Mobile Suites, it has a greater "R" value than what I've seen in most motorhomes. Again, because we are living in Oklahoma City and we do get some cold temperatures, that was important to us. Had it been that we were looking at lesser fifth wheels instead of the Mobile Suites, the "R" factor would not have been a factor.
Oh, and it was a lot cheaper to buy the Mobile Suites and a used Ford F450 than it was to buy the Phaeton.
Terry
I am confused. How does the need to go more than one direction change if you have a parked 5th wheel with a tow vehicle or a parked motor home with a toad. I still only see one usable vehicle for errands so I must be missing something.
By lesser fifth wheels, I'm sure you meant "less expensive" :)
We love our Cameo and it is well built and also well insulated for a fifth wheel; while also offering ample storage and under belly a/c heat circulation. We've had a good experience with it and only a few "issues". Looking for the right fit in a RV, is not something to rush. As a newbie, one needs to take time to study what other people are saying about their experiences and then gleen from that to narrow your search.
We felt the same about the fifth wheel floor plan offering a feeling of separated areas and it works for us. The only thing I miss when we are out on the road is my bath tub!
But, hey, we still get whip-lash whenever a tag-axle Phaeton passes by! PK
OK, so that explains the 2nd vehicle but I still am not sure how that makes a difference between MH and 5th wheel unless you are triple towing the 2nd vehicle.
-- Edited by Bill Adams on Monday 6th of February 2012 12:20:49 PM
I should have pointed out that we have a second vehicle. So we have our tow vehicle plus a "tag-along or scout" vehicle. With that configuration of vehicles, we can go separate directions. Remember that we are "static" full-timers.
PK,
The DRV models of Elite Suites and Mobile Suites have 15" frames and 3 1/4" walls. So, we have what I consider to be a better AND more expensive coach.
Carriage was one of the brands we considered, but Carriage wouldn't "alter or modify" any of their models to suit our desires, where DRV would. Also, while it is cosmetic, the fit and finish of the DRV's seemed to be better, at least to us.
Oh, and should you ever decide to change fivers, DRV offers a tub.
Terry
Might I ask why you want to switch, and what sort of MH you have?
Roomier is my ownly reason. We have a 2008 Goergetown DS 315 SE, Not a single compaint on this MH only have 8000 miles on it. Want to change while milage is so low, have it up for sale now
Byrdy, I have 2 co-workers that own cyclones. One has the 3010 and the other has the 3950. The 3010 was bought at RV Wholesalers in Ohio. It was a better price. He has not had any issues so far. The 3950 has had minor issues only. The owner said August was too hot for both ac units to keep the unit comfortable. That was in Louisiana with no trees in the rv park. I have been looking at toy haulers also. It is hard to find a high end toy hauler that fits our needs.
James
And like Terry we also own a Mobile Suites and we in fact did double tow for over two years. We towed the Mobile Suites and a Chevy HHR behind the Suites. Due to not be able to stay under 65' (we were 75') we decide to go back to the 2012 Chevy 3500HD DRW's and Delaine drives the Tahoe to our Florida site. But with the ride of the 2012 Chevy we will probably not bring the Tahoe next winter...
We don't bring toys when traveling, to many restrictions for ATV, etc and I much prefer my John Deere Gator vs ATV. So we really never though much about a Toy Hauler.... We are pleased with our choice of a Mobile Suites, and can buy two Mobile Suites + vs a Motor Home.. But its a choice. Be happy..... Happy Trails....