We want to add sat TV to an older MH. It will need to support 2 or 3 different TV's. Any advise?
GENECOP said
02:46 PM Jan 27, 2012
Kingdome has been dependable and easy to use for us....
Loydstuts said
04:11 PM Jan 27, 2012
THANKS!
Bill Adams said
05:28 PM Jan 27, 2012
There are many choices out their and while a dome might be a good option you will need to consider what you want and what you need as the dome is a very limiting option should you choose this route. Do you currently have satellite TV service with either Dish or Direct? Do you want HD in the coach? Will you be using more than one receiver or will it be OK for one all TV's to watch the one channel from the one receiver? Any more information you can provide about your needs would be very helpful.
The Bear II said
06:00 PM Jan 27, 2012
Loydstuts,
I was going to tell you to contact Bill Adams but I see he has already responded to you. He will get you on the right setup.
Loydstuts said
01:27 AM Jan 28, 2012
I was hoping I could do this with the current dual receiver we have from Dish, but I see that to do 3 tv's, I'll have to buy at least one solo receiver. Thanks to everyone for your help! You guys are great!
Bill Adams said
02:45 AM Jan 28, 2012
It's not necessarily true that you would need a 2nd receiver. The one receiver could control the main TV and the 2nd output could go to both of the other TV's which would be on the same channel. Only if you think you are going to have 3 different people watching 3 different channels at the same time would you be required to use another receiver. In either case, you are certainly not going to want to try this setup and use a dome to receive the signal.
Loydstuts said
03:32 AM Jan 28, 2012
Thanks Bill. What would you suggest?
Bill Adams said
04:13 AM Jan 28, 2012
The only system that I recommend is the Winegard Trav'ler. This will not work as you drive but then the systems that do work while you drive (the dome systems) will not give you the service you desire. The Trav'ler uses the same home antenna that Dish Network currently installs and will provide all of your receivers all of the necessary programming.
Loydstuts said
03:22 PM Jan 28, 2012
I was looking at that. Its good to have confirmation. Thanks again!
Delaine and Lindy said
05:53 PM Jan 28, 2012
I second the Wingard Trav'ler also, great system....... We have two HD receivers. We use Direct-Tv at home base also and we are parked under a building and use the stick house pole mount Slim line dish same as the Trav'ler... Happy Trails....
Racerguy said
03:10 PM Feb 13, 2012
Joe,if you ever decide to get a DVR you will Love it.Tape multiple programs when they are on and you need or want to be somewhere else.Then watch them at your convenience and best of all...Buzz right thru those irritating commercials.:) I am a big fan of HD but Linda could care less.If I had to I could be without HD but not the DVR.
-- Edited by Racerguy on Monday 13th of February 2012 03:12:35 PM
Bill and Linda said
04:54 PM Feb 13, 2012
As usual, Bill Adams gives good advice.But in addtion we need to be careful about name brand generalizations.For example, yes, there are Winegard systems that are SD only.There are also Winegard that are SD and HD.The Winegard Trav’ler system, by “name” has both SD only and SD / HD systems available.It depends on the model number and not just the trade or marketing name.
Also, the antenna has nothing to do with DVR capabilities.A 15 year old 18” antenna will work with a Direct TV DVR, but it won’t do HD.It is the receiver, not the antenna that determines DVR capabilities.However, the antenna must be an HD capable system for Direct TV.
If you get the Winegard SK-3005 Trav’ler, as Bill Adams said, it will do HD / SD / DVR / no DVR / whatever and is fully automatic. It can feed up to four antenna connections which means 2 DVR’s with 2 tuners in each DVR.A nice piece of RV gear.
Edited to correct DRV to DVR. Had Steve's MS on the brain. :)
-- Edited by Bill and Linda on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 08:14:47 AM
Speedhitch said
10:06 PM Feb 13, 2012
I have the Winegard but it only works on non HD and has no DVR capabilities. We don't use DVR nor do we need the HD. Having this type of system allows us to use the Winegard roof mounted dish. We can get all our channels when we are on the road. To get HD and all the other bells and whistles we will have to upgrade our dish...
Speedy
Loydstuts said
02:09 AM Feb 14, 2012
Thanks guys, looks like we have a wnner.At this time I could care less about hd, but don't mess w/my dvr :)
Bill Adams said
12:04 PM Feb 15, 2012
The King Dome (all domes) have such limitations compared to an open face antenna I would never recommend one unless you want to be able to watch TV going down the road. There is no advantage to a dome by comparison other than the fact that you don't have to remember to stow it before you leave. Just to be clear, I am not telling anyone what to buy or not to buy as that is much too personal of a choice. I am only saying that if anyone asked ME I would not recommend the dome. YMMV!
-- Edited by Bill Adams on Wednesday 15th of February 2012 12:05:14 PM
MikeH said
06:24 PM Feb 15, 2012
GENECOP wrote:
Kingdome has been dependable and easy to use for us....
I second this,KingDome has been around for quite a while as well so you know they're dependable and are doing something right :). I trust their TV and satellite accessories and have been using them for a few seasons now without issue!
Bill and Linda said
08:21 PM Feb 15, 2012
If I may add to what Bill A. said, domes work.However, they do not meet the technical specifications for Direct TV due to the small dish size in the dome.The large dish antennas of the Trav’ler provide more “head room” in bad weather conditions as well as simply getting a signal when trees, or the like, are in the way and impede the signal somewhat.
The Trav’ler dish size is the same as used in a home installation and provide, to use the technical term, the satellite “link budget” required by Direct TV (and others) for more robust reception.(Not quality, the ability to receive the signal from the satellite at a level which the receiver can actually tune and provide a picture and sound.)
I agree with Bill, it is a personal choice. But information helps with making those choices so we try to provide same as maybe helpful.
Bill.
NorCal Dan said
08:30 PM Feb 15, 2012
We have the Slimline HD auto sat dish mounted on the roof and love it. I also carry an 18" oval dish just in case we are parked long term where trees block reception. My portable dish will receive all non-HD DirecTV channels and has LNB outputs for 4 TV's. If you don't mind manually setting up a dish and running cables to your rig these older sat dishes can sometimes be found at Sat dealers who do installs.
bigredoes said
08:30 PM Feb 15, 2012
I will admit to thinking the new 'open face' dish on our new motorhome was odd....but I am very pleased with it...reception seems to be a lot more consistent in clouds and rain, etc....
Bill Adams said
08:52 AM Feb 24, 2012
The Trav'ler for Dish Network costs a bit less than the Trav'ler for DirecTV and you need to ensure that you buy the one used for your specific service. The DTV version costs around $1600 and the Dish version around $1400. Depending upon where you buy it and whether you want to install it or have it installed will make the final price a bit higher or lower.
-- Edited by Bill Adams on Friday 24th of February 2012 08:17:29 PM
I have no idea if you are the type to try and install this yourself.While electrically not difficult, it is not for the faint of heart to mount this on the roof, find a way to route the cables and setup the whole system.IMO you probably need a professional, such as Bill Abrams who frequents this forum, to do the installation.www.internetanywhere.us
Camping World can do it.No recommendation one way or another there.As with many things, the best is expensive, but worth it IMO in the long run.
Bill
53 Merc said
06:11 PM Feb 24, 2012
Bill, check the first sentence in your post. You cite both Trav'lers as being for Dish Network. Sure you meant DirecTV and Dish.
Bill Adams said
04:18 AM Feb 25, 2012
Yeah, I do that a lot. Part of my dyslexia I think. Thanks for the information and I (think) I have corrected the post.
We want to add sat TV to an older MH. It will need to support 2 or 3 different TV's. Any advise?
Do you currently have satellite TV service with either Dish or Direct? Do you want HD in the coach? Will you be using more than one receiver or will it be OK for one all TV's to watch the one channel from the one receiver? Any more information you can provide about your needs would be very helpful.
I was going to tell you to contact Bill Adams but I see he has already responded to you. He will get you on the right setup.
I was hoping I could do this with the current dual receiver we have from Dish, but I see that to do 3 tv's, I'll have to buy at least one solo receiver. Thanks to everyone for your help! You guys are great!
In either case, you are certainly not going to want to try this setup and use a dome to receive the signal.
Thanks Bill. What would you suggest?
The Trav'ler uses the same home antenna that Dish Network currently installs and will provide all of your receivers all of the necessary programming.
I was looking at that. Its good to have confirmation. Thanks again!
Joe,if you ever decide to get a DVR you will Love it.Tape multiple programs when they are on and you need or want to be somewhere else.Then watch them at your convenience and best of all...Buzz right thru those irritating commercials.:) I am a big fan of HD but Linda could care less.If I had to I could be without HD but not the DVR.
-- Edited by Racerguy on Monday 13th of February 2012 03:12:35 PM
As usual, Bill Adams gives good advice. But in addtion we need to be careful about name brand generalizations. For example, yes, there are Winegard systems that are SD only. There are also Winegard that are SD and HD. The Winegard Trav’ler system, by “name” has both SD only and SD / HD systems available. It depends on the model number and not just the trade or marketing name.
Also, the antenna has nothing to do with DVR capabilities. A 15 year old 18” antenna will work with a Direct TV DVR, but it won’t do HD. It is the receiver, not the antenna that determines DVR capabilities. However, the antenna must be an HD capable system for Direct TV.
If you get the Winegard SK-3005 Trav’ler, as Bill Adams said, it will do HD / SD / DVR / no DVR / whatever and is fully automatic. It can feed up to four antenna connections which means 2 DVR’s with 2 tuners in each DVR. A nice piece of RV gear.
It looks like this:
http://www.salelowprice.com/auto.php?numb=B002N5RZLC
Bill
Edited to correct DRV to DVR. Had Steve's MS on the brain. :)
-- Edited by Bill and Linda on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 08:14:47 AM
I have the Winegard but it only works on non HD and has no DVR capabilities. We don't use DVR nor do we need the HD. Having this type of system allows us to use the Winegard roof mounted dish. We can get all our channels when we are on the road. To get HD and all the other bells and whistles we will have to upgrade our dish...
Speedy
The King Dome (all domes) have such limitations compared to an open face antenna I would never recommend one unless you want to be able to watch TV going down the road. There is no advantage to a dome by comparison other than the fact that you don't have to remember to stow it before you leave.
Just to be clear, I am not telling anyone what to buy or not to buy as that is much too personal of a choice. I am only saying that if anyone asked ME I would not recommend the dome. YMMV!
-- Edited by Bill Adams on Wednesday 15th of February 2012 12:05:14 PM
I second this,KingDome has been around for quite a while as well so you know they're dependable and are doing something right :). I trust their TV and satellite accessories and have been using them for a few seasons now without issue!
If I may add to what Bill A. said, domes work. However, they do not meet the technical specifications for Direct TV due to the small dish size in the dome. The large dish antennas of the Trav’ler provide more “head room” in bad weather conditions as well as simply getting a signal when trees, or the like, are in the way and impede the signal somewhat.
The Trav’ler dish size is the same as used in a home installation and provide, to use the technical term, the satellite “link budget” required by Direct TV (and others) for more robust reception. (Not quality, the ability to receive the signal from the satellite at a level which the receiver can actually tune and provide a picture and sound.)
I agree with Bill, it is a personal choice. But information helps with making those choices so we try to provide same as maybe helpful.
Bill.
The Trav'ler for Dish Network costs a bit less than the Trav'ler for DirecTV and you need to ensure that you buy the one used for your specific service. The DTV version costs around $1600 and the Dish version around $1400. Depending upon where you buy it and whether you want to install it or have it installed will make the final price a bit higher or lower.
-- Edited by Bill Adams on Friday 24th of February 2012 08:17:29 PM
Here is a link to but one source:
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=SK-3005&d=Winegard-SK-3005-TRAVLER-Automatic-Multi-Satellite-DIRECTV-SLIM-LINE-KA/KU-Dish-(SK-3005)
I have no idea if you are the type to try and install this yourself. While electrically not difficult, it is not for the faint of heart to mount this on the roof, find a way to route the cables and setup the whole system. IMO you probably need a professional, such as Bill Abrams who frequents this forum, to do the installation. www.internetanywhere.us
Camping World can do it. No recommendation one way or another there. As with many things, the best is expensive, but worth it IMO in the long run.
Bill