I have been getting ready for our upcoming transition to full time RVing. I posted this on my blog and thought I would share it here as well.
So, I started cleaning out the garage, which led to the closets, which led to the office, which…well you get the idea.
As I created the different “piles”…a pile for trash, for sale, to donate etc. I was astonished at just how much “stuff” I had accumulated over the years! Much of it I forgot I even had and most I hadn’t used in years.
The more “stuff” I got rid of the better I felt! Even my son got in the act and started donating toys that were once so special to him that have long since been collecting dust in the corner of his bedroom.
Are we as a society addicted to stuff? I think we may be! Think about some of the new TV shows.
“Hoarders” – A show about people who refuse to throw anything away. Some items never even opened, some used with only the empty container left…still they refuse to throw away even the trash in many cases. While some may have mental issues that cause this type of behavior, many of us display this same sort of behavior to a lesser degree. We just don’t think we can live without that “special thing”. Trust me! You can!!
“Storage Wars” – A show about people who buy the contents of abandoned storage units without any idea what is contained in them. They are looking for collectibles or simply items that they can resell for a profit. So we buy all this “stuff”, put it storage and then forget we even have the storage garage!
This is crazy! Think about it!! How much “stuff” do you really use on a regular basis? If you are honest with yourself, the answer will surprise you! You likely only use a small percentage of what you own on a regular basis.
My son and I are downsizing a lot…and I mean a lot! We really don’t want “more” stuff. More to clean, more to break, more to tie us down. As the saying goes…sometimes LESS IS MORE!!
3fortheroad said
02:26 PM Aug 21, 2011
George Carlin had a funny take on STUFF.
Tried to attach clip of George and his take on STUFF but didn't work. He can be a little foul mouthed at times, but for telling it like it is, the guy was brilliant.
-- Edited by 3fortheroad on Sunday 21st of August 2011 02:41:34 PM
-- Edited by 3fortheroad on Sunday 21st of August 2011 02:42:27 PM
dannick said
02:52 PM Aug 21, 2011
I did a search on youtube for "George Carlin Stuff' and came across the video you referred to. As you said, a little "foul mouthed" but absolutely hilarious AND True!
azrving said
05:06 PM Aug 21, 2011
Yes, we are addicted to our stuff! My wife and I manage a 600+ unit storage facility; you wouldn't believe the money people pay to keep junk/stuff in storage. We have units that have been rented for 5-8 years and I would be willing to bet they have paid more in storage fees than the stuff is worth. We get attached to our belongings; we think our possessions are a reflection of our status/success. Actually our stuff owns us because it restricts our travel, finances, time with family, etc.
Anything you cannot relinquish when it has outlived its usefulness possesses you, and in this materialistic age a great many of us are possessed by our possessions.
Peace Pilgrim
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
Jesus Christ
"A Message by ??:
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete...
Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.
Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.
Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. An embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.
Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.
AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
If you don't send this to other people....Who cares?" —
Edited because JanieD found out this essay was not written by George Carlin..lol I should have know it wasn't written by Mr. Carlin, there was no profanity
-- Edited by azrving on Tuesday 23rd of August 2011 03:15:45 PM
dannick said
05:12 PM Aug 21, 2011
Mark & Nancy, WOW! That's all I can say!!
Your message as well as George Carlin's are so powerful. I think I'm going to post the George Carlin message on my blog as well.
Thanks for sharing :)
azrving said
06:40 PM Aug 21, 2011
dannick wrote:
Mark & Nancy, WOW! That's all I can say!!
Your message as well as George Carlin's are so powerful. I think I'm going to post the George Carlin message on my blog as well.
Thanks for sharing :)
We are struggling with the "Stuff Addiction" too! We sold a bunch of stuff when we moved 2000 miles but we still have a long way to go. I wouldn't have a job if people quit their stuff addiction
GENECOP said
05:54 AM Aug 22, 2011
Yes, personally we have spent 50 years acquiring stuff, the next 10 has been about getting rid of stuff, go figure.......
janieD said
08:39 AM Aug 23, 2011
Though this is a great essay it is not by George Carlin. Some of it sounded like him but other parts did not so I put it through Snopes and this is what I found: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp It doesn't make the message any less true but I don't thing George would appreciate having it attributed to him. He was one of my favorite comics.
dannick said
09:20 AM Aug 23, 2011
Janie, Thanks for the clarification :)
azrving said
03:14 PM Aug 23, 2011
janieD wrote:
Though this is a great essay it is not by George Carlin. Some of it sounded like him but other parts did not so I put it through Snopes and this is what I found: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp It doesn't make the message any less true but I don't thing George would appreciate having it attributed to him. He was one of my favorite comics.
I think George would have agreed with every word. I wasn't the one that attributed it to George. I was a big fan of GC too. I have been corrected; I will now sit in (self- imposed) time out for the next 30 minutes. LOL
Thanks for the snopes link I have edited the post. I copied and pasted the article from a website that has a ton of my favorite quotes on it, I guess the internet is the same as the newspapers & nightly news, you can't trust the content. Take care.
I didn't mean to offend. I like the sentiment of the post but in this day of circulating emails I have found it is important to check the sources. Snopes is a great site to do that on. George Carlin would probably agree with most of what is in that post, I also have seen his piece on "stuff" but as you read on Snopes he didn't want that piece attributed to him. It doesn't make the message any less valid. Sorry if I upset you or anyone else.
azrving said
01:39 PM Aug 24, 2011
janieD wrote:
I didn't mean to offend. I like the sentiment of the post but in this day of circulating emails I have found it is important to check the sources. Snopes is a great site to do that on. George Carlin would probably agree with most of what is in that post, I also have seen his piece on "stuff" but as you read on Snopes he didn't want that piece attributed to him. It doesn't make the message any less valid. Sorry if I upset you or anyone else.
JanieD,
You did not offend me! I have thick skin and I will admit when I'm wrong. However, I am not going to research everything I read or copy from the internet, just too much of a waste of time IMO. If I like the article, I may share it with others but I will refrain from including the author or source of the article/essay in the future.
Now, could we get back to the OP's original question, Please?? "ARE WE ADDICTED TO STUFF"
-- Edited by azrving on Wednesday 24th of August 2011 01:40:36 PM
Loretta said
02:01 PM Aug 24, 2011
Yes, we are addicted. I just have to look in my garage and after hauling boxes from one coast to another, several times I might add , I finally decided that if I don't know what is in the box or if I haven't needed to look for anything, it is time for all of them to GO. I know that motorhomes don't have much room for storing so I want to begin with a clean slate. It is so freeing to get rid of 'stuff'. I have devised a plan that if I use something I am going to put it in a seperate place and after a week, anything else that was in that drawer is going to be tossed. Now, I just have to stick to the plan and I should be OK.
janni said
02:37 PM Aug 24, 2011
Gives a whole new meaning to "window shopping" AFTER getting rid of all that stuff. Yes, we were addicted to stuff but I don't miss any of it! Checkbook looks better also. Now if we didn't want to try all those new restaurants....................
Ckerr said
02:44 PM Aug 24, 2011
I've come to the place where I would rather spend money on "experiences" than "stuff." Of course some "stuff" seems to be necessary to facilitate the experiences! LOL
We're in the midst of the never ending challenge to figure out which "stuff" that is...
dannick said
02:48 PM Aug 24, 2011
Seems a lot of folks are getting into the "downsizing" idea! As for me...my house will be on the market after labor day. I know it's going to be tough to sell but you have to start sometime! I am getting rid of just about everything! An RV can only hold so much and I do not want anything in storage. So...here is my goal and I am well on my way.
I am selling or giving away all furniture and appliances. Keeping our bikes and fishing poles :) Everything else will be contained in....8 boxes or less.
This sure feels great! Less to break, less to clean, less to tie me down. Indeed "LESS IS MORE" = More Freedom!
Loretta said
04:45 PM Aug 24, 2011
Hopefully my house will be on the market sometime after Labor Day as well. I like that 8 boxes or less idea. Now the restaurant thing is another story...........
Jake62 said
05:41 PM Aug 24, 2011
All our "stuff" is sitting in a 10' x 20' storage facility in Tucson. So far, we haven't missed it in four months while out on the East Coast ... but some of the "stuff" are heirlooms which the kids want and, once they set up shop somewhere, we will pass them onto the kids. However, that could take awhile ...
-- Edited by Jake62 on Wednesday 24th of August 2011 06:20:36 PM
janieD said
06:18 PM Aug 24, 2011
I was definitely addicted to stuff but selling the house pointed this out and now we are constantly going through our stuff and deciding if we need it. We full time in a 30 ft 5th wheel and actually have extra room in the cupboards, Hope I can keep that up.
dannick said
09:53 AM Aug 30, 2011
Great thoughts on the topic. After the recent hurricane, it further illustrates that "stuff" isn't really too important.
A friend of mine shared this incredible story with me which really puts things in perspective.
Waggin Tails said
08:47 PM Aug 30, 2011
A friend once told me. "The intrinsic value 'stuff' is proportional to the amount of storage space available." This is why when one buys a larger house, it does not take long to fill it up.
RVRon said
07:22 AM Aug 31, 2011
Waggin Tails wrote:
A friend once told me. "The intrinsic value 'stuff' is proportional to the amount of storage space available." This is why when one buys a larger house, it does not take long to fill it up.
Boy is that ever the truth! When we lived in NY we had a big house with 2 attics, a barn and 2-car garage and they all managed to fill themselves up with STUFF! Even though we've made a conscious effort to not accumulate more stuff here in Florida there's still a lot to get rid of before we can go fulltime. It kind of sneaks up on you and attaches itself like a parasite.
dannick said
08:33 PM Sep 19, 2011
Well, I am just about there...to 8 boxes or less! I need to sell some furniture and appliances but I should be able to reach my goal by mid October. Ahhh!!!! This feels great!!!
Terry and Jo said
04:46 PM Sep 20, 2011
Well, I will touch on something to try to avoid. In our case, we got rid of a LOT of stuff to get down to where it would fit into the truck and fifth wheel. But, since we are living full-time in one place for a few years yet, we began to accumulate "stuff" again. We purchased some portable fence panels to create a yard for our dogs. In talking to our landlord, we were informed that if I wanted to mow inside our fence, they would take some off of our lot rent.
That led to buying a lawn mower and string trimmer. Then, with those, our generator, our bicycles and portable waste tank, we needed a storage shed. So, we bought a plastic one for about $500 to store our new "stuff."
Since I don't trust the rear ladder for my 225 lbs, we then purchased a multi-ladder so that I don't have to use the rear ladder. This one will also extend enough above the roofline that I'll have an easier time getting on the roof. So, that is now in the shed. I've also accumulated a bird bath (light and it disassembles so it can move with us when we move) and a torque wrench for the wheels.
So, my advice for all is that once you get rid of the "stuff," get in the RV and keep moving or you may start accumulating again. While we've gathered some more, it won't be hard to get rid of what we have re-accumulated.
Terry
Bob and Kathy said
07:33 AM Sep 23, 2011
Waggin Tails wrote:
This is why when one buys a larger house, it does not take long to fill it up.
Amen brutha! We have lived in our home for 11 years. It has a combined garage/basement. When we moved in, the basement/garage was practically empty. After this last flood, we found out how much STUFF we actually had (and THAT was only in the basement!), because we had to throw out some of that STUFF. For that last 6 months or so, I have been collecting some of this unneeded stuff for a garage sale (which will happen next month!). We are not looking at going full-timing until at least 2013, but I have started very early getting rid of stuff that I don't use, don't want, and don't need. Even at this point, it feels like a weight is being lifted. I keep going with my ultimate goal in mind - selling the house and getting on the road in our fifth wheel.
I have the CD of George Carlin's called "A Place for my Stuff". He was a hilarious comedian, and Bob and I laughed our sides silly listening to him. Yes, he had a potty mouth, but it was a funny potty mouth, and he told the truth in such a hilarious way.
(Bob and) Kathy
RVPAINTER said
02:40 PM Sep 26, 2011
We've had many yard sales and gave STUFF away and sold some STUFF and made many donations to worthy organizations. I just donated 12 of my paintings to a few local Santa Fe charity auctions. We still ended up renting a 10x10 climate controlled storage unit. We have a lot of wonderful antiques and of course I have a lot of paintings. The antique market in Santa Fe is as depressed as it has ever been so now is not the time to sell these. We'll be in Santa Fe for the next six months renting an apartment that is 3 times smaller than our home so we are taking just enough to live in a very minimalistic fashion for this 6 months. Our hope is over the next 6 months to sell some more STUFF!!! Time will tell!!!! We did get rid of a lot of STUFF and it was very liberating!!!!!
I have been getting ready for our upcoming transition to full time RVing. I posted this on my blog and thought I would share it here as well.
So, I started cleaning out the garage, which led to the closets, which led to the office, which…well you get the idea.
As I created the different “piles”…a pile for trash, for sale, to donate etc. I was astonished at just how much “stuff” I had accumulated over the years! Much of it I forgot I even had and most I hadn’t used in years.
The more “stuff” I got rid of the better I felt! Even my son got in the act and started donating toys that were once so special to him that have long since been collecting dust in the corner of his bedroom.
Are we as a society addicted to stuff? I think we may be! Think about some of the new TV shows.
“Hoarders” – A show about people who refuse to throw anything away. Some items never even opened, some used with only the empty container left…still they refuse to throw away even the trash in many cases. While some may have mental issues that cause this type of behavior, many of us display this same sort of behavior to a lesser degree. We just don’t think we can live without that “special thing”. Trust me! You can!!
“Storage Wars” – A show about people who buy the contents of abandoned storage units without any idea what is contained in them. They are looking for collectibles or simply items that they can resell for a profit. So we buy all this “stuff”, put it storage and then forget we even have the storage garage!
This is crazy! Think about it!! How much “stuff” do you really use on a regular basis? If you are honest with yourself, the answer will surprise you! You likely only use a small percentage of what you own on a regular basis.
My son and I are downsizing a lot…and I mean a lot! We really don’t want “more” stuff. More to clean, more to break, more to tie us down. As the saying goes…sometimes LESS IS MORE!!
George Carlin had a funny take on STUFF.
Tried to attach clip of George and his take on STUFF but didn't work. He can be a little foul mouthed at times, but for telling it like it is, the guy was brilliant.
-- Edited by 3fortheroad on Sunday 21st of August 2011 02:41:34 PM
-- Edited by 3fortheroad on Sunday 21st of August 2011 02:42:27 PM
As you said, a little "foul mouthed" but absolutely hilarious AND True!
Yes, we are addicted to our stuff! My wife and I manage a 600+ unit storage facility; you wouldn't believe the money people pay to keep junk/stuff in storage. We have units that have been rented for 5-8 years and I would be willing to bet they have paid more in storage fees than the stuff is worth. We get attached to our belongings; we think our possessions are a reflection of our status/success. Actually our stuff owns us because it restricts our travel, finances, time with family, etc.
Anything you cannot relinquish when it has outlived its usefulness possesses you, and in this materialistic age a great many of us are possessed by our possessions.
Peace Pilgrim
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
Jesus Christ
"A Message by ??:
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete...
Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.
Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.
Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. An embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.
Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.
AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
If you don't send this to other people....Who cares?"
—
Edited because JanieD
found out this essay was not written by George Carlin..lol I should have know it wasn't written by Mr. Carlin, there was no profanity
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
-- Edited by azrving on Tuesday 23rd of August 2011 03:15:45 PM
WOW! That's all I can say!!
Your message as well as George Carlin's are so powerful. I think I'm going to post the George Carlin message on my blog as well.
Thanks for sharing :)
We are struggling with the "Stuff Addiction" too! We sold a bunch of stuff when we moved 2000 miles but we still have a long way to go. I wouldn't have a job if people quit their stuff addiction
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
It doesn't make the message any less true but I don't thing George would appreciate having it attributed to him. He was one of my favorite comics.
Thanks for the clarification :)
I think George would have agreed with every word. I wasn't the one that attributed it to George. I was a big fan of GC too. I have been corrected; I will now sit in (self- imposed) time out for the next 30 minutes. LOL
Thanks for the snopes link I have edited the post. I copied and pasted the article from a website that has a ton of my favorite quotes on it, I guess the internet is the same as the newspapers & nightly news, you can't trust the content.
Take care.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
JanieD,
You did not offend me!
I have thick skin and I will admit when I'm wrong. However, I am not going to research everything I read or copy from the internet, just too much of a waste of time IMO. If I like the article, I may share it with others but I will refrain from including the author or source of the article/essay in the future.
Now, could we get back to the OP's original question, Please?? "ARE WE ADDICTED TO STUFF"
-- Edited by azrving on Wednesday 24th of August 2011 01:40:36 PM
Yes, we are addicted. I just have to look in my garage and after hauling boxes from one coast to another, several times I might add
, I finally decided that if I don't know what is in the box or if I haven't needed to look for anything, it is time for all of them to GO. I know that motorhomes don't have much room for storing so I want to begin with a clean slate. It is so freeing to get rid of 'stuff'. I have devised a plan that if I use something I am going to put it in a seperate place and after a week, anything else that was in that drawer is going to be tossed. Now, I just have to stick to the plan and I should be OK.
I've come to the place where I would rather spend money on "experiences" than "stuff." Of course some "stuff" seems to be necessary to facilitate the experiences! LOL
We're in the midst of the never ending challenge to figure out which "stuff" that is...
I am selling or giving away all furniture and appliances. Keeping our bikes and fishing poles :)
Everything else will be contained in....8 boxes or less.
This sure feels great! Less to break, less to clean, less to tie me down. Indeed "LESS IS MORE" = More Freedom!
Hopefully my house will be on the market sometime after Labor Day as well. I like that 8 boxes or less idea. Now the restaurant thing is another story...........
All our "stuff" is sitting in a 10' x 20' storage facility in Tucson. So far, we haven't missed it in four months while out on the East Coast ... but some of the "stuff" are heirlooms which the kids want and, once they set up shop somewhere, we will pass them onto the kids. However, that could take awhile ...
-- Edited by Jake62 on Wednesday 24th of August 2011 06:20:36 PM
Great thoughts on the topic. After the recent hurricane, it further illustrates that "stuff" isn't really too important.
A friend of mine shared this incredible story with me which really puts things in perspective.
Boy is that ever the truth! When we lived in NY we had a big house with 2 attics, a barn and 2-car garage and they all managed to fill themselves up with STUFF! Even though we've made a conscious effort to not accumulate more stuff here in Florida there's still a lot to get rid of before we can go fulltime. It kind of sneaks up on you and attaches itself like a parasite.
I need to sell some furniture and appliances but I should be able to reach my goal by mid October.
Ahhh!!!! This feels great!!!
Well, I will touch on something to try to avoid. In our case, we got rid of a LOT of stuff to get down to where it would fit into the truck and fifth wheel. But, since we are living full-time in one place for a few years yet, we began to accumulate "stuff" again. We purchased some portable fence panels to create a yard for our dogs. In talking to our landlord, we were informed that if I wanted to mow inside our fence, they would take some off of our lot rent.
That led to buying a lawn mower and string trimmer. Then, with those, our generator, our bicycles and portable waste tank, we needed a storage shed. So, we bought a plastic one for about $500 to store our new "stuff."
Since I don't trust the rear ladder for my 225 lbs, we then purchased a multi-ladder so that I don't have to use the rear ladder. This one will also extend enough above the roofline that I'll have an easier time getting on the roof. So, that is now in the shed. I've also accumulated a bird bath (light and it disassembles so it can move with us when we move) and a torque wrench for the wheels.
So, my advice for all is that once you get rid of the "stuff," get in the RV and keep moving or you may start accumulating again. While we've gathered some more, it won't be hard to get rid of what we have re-accumulated.
Terry
Amen brutha! We have lived in our home for 11 years. It has a combined garage/basement. When we moved in, the basement/garage was practically empty. After this last flood, we found out how much STUFF we actually had (and THAT was only in the basement!), because we had to throw out some of that STUFF. For that last 6 months or so, I have been collecting some of this unneeded stuff for a garage sale (which will happen next month!). We are not looking at going full-timing until at least 2013, but I have started very early getting rid of stuff that I don't use, don't want, and don't need. Even at this point, it feels like a weight is being lifted. I keep going with my ultimate goal in mind - selling the house and getting on the road in our fifth wheel.
I have the CD of George Carlin's called "A Place for my Stuff". He was a hilarious comedian, and Bob and I laughed our sides silly listening to him. Yes, he had a potty mouth, but it was a funny potty mouth, and he told the truth in such a hilarious way.
(Bob and) Kathy