We'll be heading to Phoenix area in our motorhome around January 1st. Our travel will be on Rt. 40 from east to west. As Route 40 brings us into northern Arizona, what would you suggest as the best way to get to the Phoenix area -- actually to Gold Canyon on Route 60 east of Phoenix.
We've traveled to Gold Canyon many times in the past, but always in a car or van. We know some of the roads may not be conducive to a motorhome.
Any suggestions?
-- Edited by Acorn on Sunday 6th of December 2009 09:44:53 AM
-- Edited by Acorn on Sunday 6th of December 2009 11:19:12 AM
I would take I-17 out of Flagstaff but the road conditions in Northern AZ are unpredictable that time of year.
Take care!
MW
Also wanted to mention that many of the rest areas in AZ have been closed due to budget cuts. Just thought you should be aware.
-- Edited by azrving on Sunday 6th of December 2009 11:40:38 AM
NorCal Dan said
01:23 PM Dec 6, 2009
I can vouch for the lack of rest area's. From Benson to Q-Town on I-10 there was only 1 open rest area. I heard that all the rest stops on I-40 were closed but I can't verify.
Well, as someone who lives in Phoenix and owns acreage in N.E. Arizona about 30 miles south of I-40 on AZ 191, I certainly have a route recommendation :)
My advise is to take the most direct route the Phoenix metro area and taking I-40 to I-17 IS NOT the way to go IMO.
I would take state route 191 south from I-40 at a little town called Sanders. Take 191 south to St. Johns, then head west on state route 61 to the little town of Concho.
At Concho there is a choice to be made.
You can go straight and follow 61 on to Show Low where you'll meet up with US 60 and you can either take 60 all the way to Globe, and further west onto your destination in Gold Canyon, or take state route 260 to Payson then south on State Route 87 (The Beeline Highway) which will take you to east Mesa then a short jog east to Gold Canyon.
My recomendation is neither of those.
At Concho I would turn right at the intersection of 61 and 180a, take 180a about a mile to Apache County road 5020. Don't let the designation scare you, that county road is a two-lane paved highway that goes straight to the Snowflake/Taylor area and is barely traveled. Once you get to Snowflake you stay on that road which changes it's designation to state highway 277 which will bring you into Heber and intersect with state highway 260. From there you head west on 260 to Payson, then south on state highway 87 all the way to the Loop 202 in East Mesa where you'll go east to US 60 to Gold Canyon.
My way avoids the traffic of going through Show Low (the largest town in the White Mountains) Lakeside, and Pinetop which will be packed with ski-area traffic.
The only thing that would stop you is a snowstorm. If there has been recent snow (within 2 days) then you may very well want to go the long way around taking I-40 to I-17. They keep the roads very passable in winter, so if a storm came through, as long as you're not in the middle of it, you should be fine.
None of these roads I pointed out are what I consider a Motorhome no-no, most are two lanes with frequent pullout's and passing zones with the exception of state highway 191 and county road 5020, but there's hardly any traffic on either, so it's not a big deal.
This trip takes me 3.5 to 4 hours by car, and about 5 hours when towing my camper. Add another 45 minutes since you're going to Gold Canyon, I live in North Phoenix, so I'm a bit closer.
Have fun and enjoy the scenery on the way down! :)
Acorn said
06:58 PM Dec 7, 2009
Thanks for all the recommendations. Appreciate the good information about rest stops and local routes.
I wonder if it would be wise to drop down 25 out of Albuquerque, then go west on 10 to Tucson and north on 10 to Phoenix.... especially if the weather reports call for snow storms in Northern AZ.
traveljunkie said
08:20 PM Dec 7, 2009
That's the route we are taking, 25 out of Albuquerque, then 10 to Tucson to Phoenix. We'll be traveling the week after Christmas - haven't gone that route before but it was recommended to us by other travelers that do the route twice a year. You also avoid any mountains that way.
NorCal Dan said
10:16 PM Dec 7, 2009
That's the route we just took, 25 south out of Albuquerque then 26 over to Benson (skips Las Cruces). Stayed at Isleta Casino & Resort http://isleta-casino.com/ just south of Abq, then stayed at the SKP park in Benson. From Benson we traveled I-10 to Q-town.
Acorn said
04:40 PM Dec 9, 2009
Sounds like the way to go... that Casino campground is now bookmarked in my laptop!
We've traveled to Gold Canyon many times in the past, but always in a car or van. We know some of the roads may not be conducive to a motorhome.
Any suggestions?
-- Edited by Acorn on Sunday 6th of December 2009 09:44:53 AM
-- Edited by Acorn on Sunday 6th of December 2009 11:19:12 AM
I would take I-17 out of Flagstaff but the road conditions in Northern AZ are unpredictable that time of year.
Take care!
MW
Also wanted to mention that many of the rest areas in AZ have been closed due to budget cuts. Just thought you should be aware.
-- Edited by azrving on Sunday 6th of December 2009 11:40:38 AM
My advise is to take the most direct route the Phoenix metro area and taking I-40 to I-17 IS NOT the way to go IMO.
I would take state route 191 south from I-40 at a little town called Sanders. Take 191 south to St. Johns, then head west on state route 61 to the little town of Concho.
At Concho there is a choice to be made.
You can go straight and follow 61 on to Show Low where you'll meet up with US 60 and you can either take 60 all the way to Globe, and further west onto your destination in Gold Canyon, or take state route 260 to Payson then south on State Route 87 (The Beeline Highway) which will take you to east Mesa then a short jog east to Gold Canyon.
My recomendation is neither of those.
At Concho I would turn right at the intersection of 61 and 180a, take 180a about a mile to Apache County road 5020. Don't let the designation scare you, that county road is a two-lane paved highway that goes straight to the Snowflake/Taylor area and is barely traveled. Once you get to Snowflake you stay on that road which changes it's designation to state highway 277 which will bring you into Heber and intersect with state highway 260. From there you head west on 260 to Payson, then south on state highway 87 all the way to the Loop 202 in East Mesa where you'll go east to US 60 to Gold Canyon.
My way avoids the traffic of going through Show Low (the largest town in the White Mountains) Lakeside, and Pinetop which will be packed with ski-area traffic.
The only thing that would stop you is a snowstorm. If there has been recent snow (within 2 days) then you may very well want to go the long way around taking I-40 to I-17. They keep the roads very passable in winter, so if a storm came through, as long as you're not in the middle of it, you should be fine.
None of these roads I pointed out are what I consider a Motorhome no-no, most are two lanes with frequent pullout's and passing zones with the exception of state highway 191 and county road 5020, but there's hardly any traffic on either, so it's not a big deal.
This trip takes me 3.5 to 4 hours by car, and about 5 hours when towing my camper. Add another 45 minutes since you're going to Gold Canyon, I live in North Phoenix, so I'm a bit closer.
Have fun and enjoy the scenery on the way down! :)