Does anyone use the Clorox Toilet Wand to clean the toilets with?? They don't get flushed so I don't think they should cause any problems, but then I've never even camped in an RV so I don't know. And if you don't, what do you use? Thanks.
JLitton65 said
09:38 AM Oct 5, 2009
I use the scrubbing bubbles one. I do not flush the cleaner, just dispose of it in the trash.
I like them, consider it one less bottle of cleaner to carry.
princess tonya said
09:57 AM Oct 5, 2009
Thanks. I used to use the scrubbing bubbles one, but found I like the clorox one better. I have two now in my house, but plan on trashing them and getting a new one for the RV, I just wanted to be sure it was safe to use them. They are about two years old and I think it's time to replace them.
thebearII said
02:05 PM Oct 5, 2009
We just use lysol and a toilet brush.
MrPiper said
04:02 PM Oct 5, 2009
If you bowl is porcelin then clorox is fine. If it is plastic, it is better to use a non bleach cleaner like "Spray 9" or "Simple Green" also, I believe you should not use bleach type cleaners on ABS plastic tubs and surrounds if that is what you have.
RonBoyd said
08:19 AM Oct 6, 2009
MrPiper wrote:
If it is plastic, it is better to use a non bleach cleaner like "Spray 9" or "Simple Green" also, I believe you should not use bleach type cleaners on ABS plastic tubs and surrounds if that is what you have.
What do you mean by "better"? Are you implying that bleach destroys plastic (it does come in a plastic container) or that the cleaning power of bleach, on plastic, is less than that of the other two products?
pierreandcolleen said
10:48 AM Oct 6, 2009
I use a multi-purpose cleaner and a regular brush. I was going to switch over to the wand, but every time I went to buy one they didn't have them in the grocery store.
-Colleen
Roz said
11:34 AM Oct 6, 2009
Ron,
Sure bleach comes in a plastic bottle. However, toilet bowls, basins and shower stalls made of fiberglass or a plastic-based, composite or polymer have a gel coat that may be harmed if cleaned with products other than the manufacturer reccomends.
But, . . . naaa those bottles do not have a gel coat on the inside. The most important thing is to care for the surface, as once a gel coat is damaged, it is not easily repairable.
Good luck!
RonBoyd said
01:41 PM Oct 6, 2009
Roz wrote:
Ron,
Sure bleach comes in a plastic bottle. However, toilet bowls, basins and shower stalls made of fiberglass or a plastic-based, composite or polymer have a gel coat that may be harmed if cleaned with products other than the manufacturer reccomends.
Understand that I am not being facetious but genuinely have a desire to find the truth of the matter. What authority are you basing this information on? Granted, there is considerable disagreement over how to clean a plastic toilet. For example: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bleach+%2Bplastic+%2Btoilet+%2Bclean. But I can find no definitive answers.
Even Thetford, the manufacturer of the plastic toilet in our RV, has only this to say about cleaning it: (after recommending their own product) DO NOT USE SCOURING POWDERS< ACIDS OR CONCENTRATED CLEANERS, WHICH CAN DAMAGE SURFACES. (emphasis their's ). Well, duh. Importantly, however, they make no mention of bleach.
-- Edited by RonBoyd on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 01:41:53 PM
-- Edited by RonBoyd on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 01:42:43 PM
tigerlilly108 said
03:21 PM Oct 6, 2009
Toilette Cassette - Cleaning and Maintenance
Thetford say never to use household cleaners (bleach, solvents or other powerful cleaning agents) as they may cause permanent damage to the seals and other toilet components.
-- Edited by tigerlilly108 on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 03:40:40 PM
RonBoyd said
01:37 PM Oct 7, 2009
tigerlilly108 wrote:
Toilette Cassette - Cleaning and Maintenance
Thetford say never to use household cleaners (bleach, solvents or other powerful cleaning agents) as they may cause permanent damage to the seals and other toilet components.
-- Edited by tigerlilly108 on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 03:40:40 PM
Actually, the exact wording from Thetford is:
"Do not use a highly-concentrated or high-acid content household cleaner, nor those containing abrasives, such as a scouring powder. They may damage the seals or plastic parts of the toilet, along with the seals on your dump valves."
Obviously, Lets-Getaway has their own way of interpreting that and have volunteered to be the spokesperson for Thetford. I, however, don't see a little bleach in water as being "highly-concentrated." In any event, still left unanswered is my question of whether bleach will harm the plastic parts of the water system of a RV -- lines, joints, valves, etc. not just the toilet bowl.
tigerlilly108 said
01:56 PM Oct 7, 2009
One good way to find out the answer to that question, Ron -- is call the manufacturer directly and ask them :) ...then the mystery will be solved. Good luck!
ourZbiz said
03:34 PM Oct 7, 2009
tigerlilly108 wrote:
One good way to find out the answer to that question, Ron -- is call the manufacturer directly and ask them :) ...then the mystery will be solved. Good luck!
Gosh, I was just going to say go ahead and try the bleach then report back to us...
thebearII said
04:10 PM Oct 7, 2009
How about hot water and a brush ????
tigerlilly108 said
04:16 PM Oct 7, 2009
thebearII wrote:
How about hot water and a brush ????
Combined with a "green" cleaner free of any chemicals and environmentally safe????
MrPiper said
04:24 PM Oct 7, 2009
Greetings Ron: Here is clarification around my original post:
Using bleach based cleaners will likely not harm the toilet unless it has a coating as described above, but in a new RV, you want to make sure to take good care of the beauty of all of your surfaces. Many ABS plastics such as those in the bath / shower of RV's do in fact have such a coating and in some cases it may be safer for the surface to use a non bleach cleaner. My RV had a tub label that specifically suggested using non-bleach and non-citrus based cleaners. Read the instructions / label for your individual item or contact the manufacturer.
One other VERY important reason to get out of the bleach habit in the RV is that the tendency is to use that great germ killing effect on countertops and appliance surfaces as well. Trust me, my first RV had to have the microwave AND refrigerator doors replaced because the cleanup technician at the dealership cleaned them with a bleach based cleaner. They looked like they had a coating of dull soap streaks on them, but the look was permanent and ruined the finish on both appliances. Since their are inexpensive alternatives, I just go without the bleach in the cleaners. Sorry if my post was confusing.
-- Edited by MrPiper on Wednesday 7th of October 2009 04:24:16 PM
ourZbiz said
07:11 PM Oct 7, 2009
MrPiper wrote:
citrus based cleaners
Good reminder. I forgot about the citrus based cleaners too.
bjoyce said
08:52 AM Oct 8, 2009
Sealand, the brand of toilet we have, has a cleaner we use every once in a while. I put it in before we "head" off for the day and then scrub when we come home. Softscrub (without bleach) also works with a plastic scrubber. You don't want to put anything down the toilet that is anti-bacterial since you need those bacteria to break down contents.
wildbill2673 said
08:02 PM Dec 3, 2012
DW uses just a brush and dishsoap. We purchase no special cleaners for the toilet. It works.
bjoyce said
08:13 PM Dec 3, 2012
CLR, available at Wal-Mart, can also be used when stains and deposits won't come off with normal cleaning.
Lucky Mike said
08:59 PM Dec 3, 2012
CLR also works to remove black residue of the coach and water and rust stains!!!
I like them, consider it one less bottle of cleaner to carry.
-Colleen
Sure bleach comes in a plastic bottle. However, toilet bowls, basins and shower stalls made of fiberglass or a plastic-based, composite or polymer have a gel coat that may be harmed if cleaned with products other than the manufacturer reccomends.
But, . . . naaa those bottles do not have a gel coat on the inside. The most important thing is to care for the surface, as once a gel coat is damaged, it is not easily repairable.
Good luck!
Even Thetford, the manufacturer of the plastic toilet in our RV, has only this to say about cleaning it: (after recommending their own product) DO NOT USE SCOURING POWDERS< ACIDS OR CONCENTRATED CLEANERS, WHICH CAN DAMAGE SURFACES. (emphasis their's ). Well, duh. Importantly, however, they make no mention of bleach.
-- Edited by RonBoyd on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 01:41:53 PM
-- Edited by RonBoyd on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 01:42:43 PM
Thetford say never to use household cleaners (bleach, solvents or other powerful cleaning agents) as they may cause permanent damage to the seals and other toilet components.
Reference:
http://www.lets-getaway.com/portabletoiletcareandmaintenance.htm
-- Edited by tigerlilly108 on Tuesday 6th of October 2009 03:40:40 PM
"Do not use a highly-concentrated or high-acid content household cleaner, nor those containing abrasives, such as a scouring powder. They may damage the seals or plastic parts of the toilet, along with the seals on your dump valves."
(http://www.thetford.com/HOME/CUSTOMERSUPPORT/FAQ/permanentfaq/tabid/282/Default.aspx#clean)
Obviously, Lets-Getaway has their own way of interpreting that and have volunteered to be the spokesperson for Thetford. I, however, don't see a little bleach in water as being "highly-concentrated." In any event, still left unanswered is my question of whether bleach will harm the plastic parts of the water system of a RV -- lines, joints, valves, etc. not just the toilet bowl.
Gosh, I was just going to say go ahead and try the bleach then report back to us...
Using bleach based cleaners will likely not harm the toilet unless it has a coating as described above, but in a new RV, you want to make sure to take good care of the beauty of all of your surfaces. Many ABS plastics such as those in the bath / shower of RV's do in fact have such a coating and in some cases it may be safer for the surface to use a non bleach cleaner. My RV had a tub label that specifically suggested using non-bleach and non-citrus based cleaners. Read the instructions / label for your individual item or contact the manufacturer.
One other VERY important reason to get out of the bleach habit in the RV is that the tendency is to use that great germ killing effect on countertops and appliance surfaces as well. Trust me, my first RV had to have the microwave AND refrigerator doors replaced because the cleanup technician at the dealership cleaned them with a bleach based cleaner. They looked like they had a coating of dull soap streaks on them, but the look was permanent and ruined the finish on both appliances. Since their are inexpensive alternatives, I just go without the bleach in the cleaners. Sorry if my post was confusing.
-- Edited by MrPiper on Wednesday 7th of October 2009 04:24:16 PM
Good reminder. I forgot about the citrus based cleaners too.
DW uses just a brush and dishsoap. We purchase no special cleaners for the toilet. It works.