Carrie & I went to the Tampa RV show last weekend to shop for fifth wheelers and wow!, there sure are a lot of choices. I think that I've narrowed it down to ~4 manufacturers but am trying really hard not to make a bad choice. We plan to full time in the next 12 months & will select a truck after selecting the fifth wheel.
Does anyone have experience with RV Consumer Group Ratings? At $139 it seems a bit salty but if they are trustworthy, it would be worth it. Any & all feedback would be appreciated - thanks.
Bob & Carrie Wannabe's / Gonnabe's
Luvglass said
05:16 PM Jan 24, 2009
We invested when we were first looking and never regretted the expense. They are not without fault, but there's not much else out there to give you an independent look at the industry. Since I was looking at spending $70K plus, I thought the cost of $139, prudent insurance. Good luck, there a lot of bargains out there.
Jack Mayer said
09:12 AM Jan 25, 2009
I agree with Fred. It is worth the expense, but do not take their recomendations literally. Use the information they provide, and knowledge you gain from them to form your own opinions, based on YOUR needs and lifestyle. I do not agree with all of their assessments, but it is definately worth getting. If you expect a list of the best 5ers and you will just choose the one you want you will be dissapointed. COnsider the stuff you get from them another point of information in your assessment process and you will be far happier.
Ken & Sarah said
04:01 PM Jan 25, 2009
I would like to alos suggest reading the owner's forums of the make(s) you are interested in buying. I have found them to be very informative. Good luck in your pursuit.
gypsy97 said
11:29 PM Jan 25, 2009
I bought and studied the pkg and was very glad I did. I did try to steer away from RV's that were rated as for vacation use, and tried to look for those rated at least for snowbirding. I think you can probably get by fulltiming in a vacation-rated rig, but I wouldn't take the chance, personally, in large part because I know I will be traveling coast to coast and back at least once each year, and some of that is going to be in colder weather. I ended up with a Hitchhiker II and am constantly finding little things about it that are extra nice and indicate to me a well-designed and well-mfrd product. The package is certainly worth the money, IMO.
gypsy
dream reachers said
09:43 PM Jan 26, 2009
My wife and I were very serious about finding the best trailer that would fit our future lifestyle of fulltime RVing. We found that most people who purchase rvs sold or traded them within a few months or years because they didn't research before they bought. We thought that the price was high for the RV Consumers Group material but we felt that if it could keep us from making an expensive mistake then it would be worth the price. We were very pleased with what we found. We were able to eliminate many makes and models. We narrowed our search to 3 makes and searched dealers and the internet. We finally found a 2 year old trailer that was in excellent condition with more options and extras than we could have hoped for at about half of what a new one would have cost. We have lived and traveled for the last year and a half in it and have been well pleased. We plan to keep this trailer for many more years.
Jack Mayer said
09:45 AM Jan 27, 2009
It is always interesting to me when people mention the high cost of the RV consumers group materials. I have spoken to probably dozens of people who did not buy the stuff because it was "too expensive". Yet those same people are buying rigs and spending from 100K-800K to do so......Whenever I spend any significant amount of money I try to research it fully. Sometimes that costs money to accomplish.....
gypsy97 said
10:03 AM Jan 27, 2009
What I found to be the most helpful with the RV Consumer's Guide, even better than the ratings themselves, was the book that tells you all the things to look for in a well built RV. I realized that I was looking at the glitz and thinking because it looked so beautiful it was well made. Nothing can be further from the truth, and you need to look beyond "pretty" to what is underneath - how and where caulking is applied, do the inside corners of the cabinets meet, and the construction that you can see from the storage bays. There are literally hundreds of items that are covered and they are things you will never think of when you are looking at one RV after another.
As many have said, even though the Guide seems pricey, you will come out ahead in the money it can save you by showing you how to buy right the first time.
Bigrig said
02:12 PM Jan 29, 2009
What about re-sale, has anyone run across buying or transferring the RV Consumer membership to a willing buyer?
gypsy97 said
03:33 PM Jan 29, 2009
I've seen someone offer their 2007 pkg for sale at something like $50. I don't know that there is any "membership" involved - once you use it for research and buy your rig I wouldn't see any further use for it. I have last year's pkg taking up weight in my RV.
gypsy
Bigrig said
07:32 AM Jan 30, 2009
Gypsy
I went back and re-read some things and you stated "even better than the ratings themselves, was the book that tells you all the things to look for in a well built RV."
By that I take it you mean the book on How to Select, Inspect and Buy by Gallant?
gypsy97 said
09:45 AM Jan 30, 2009
Yes, that's the one. While I was looking at the more obvious aspects of an RV, Gallant points out areas that could be defective that I would have never thought of. I might add that there are some posters on this forum who would know where to look and what to look for in the most minute details, I was not one of them.
gypsy
foxriverguy said
02:05 PM Jan 30, 2009
My advice: BUY THE MATERIALS.
However, the CD is not easy to use. The RV consumer group needs to upgrade to a better format.
You are not allowed to re-sell them.
DreamerBob said
07:24 PM Jan 30, 2009
Thanks everybody for the feedback - I did go ahead & buy them. I'm studying them now. I've already been suprised by some that are rated poorly that I had thought were OK, & also visa-versa. Very enlightening.
Howard said
09:37 AM Feb 1, 2009
This is probably a discussion I should stay out of since I have no personal experience with the RV Consumer Group. But, I know enough to make a couple of comments.
First, there are lots and lots of RVers full-timing in lower rated RVs that are perfectly happy. Conversely, there are RVers full-timing in the highest rated RVs that are terribly disappointed.
RV Consumer Group is about the best source we have for RV ratings, so I agree that their package is worth the price based on what I know. But I would caution, as others have, to use it as a tool and not the "be all, end all".
Usually, the highest rated rigs should have the highest prices due to superior construction costs. However, in doing some comparisions, sometimes the pricing does not reflect true value. In other words, sometimes the highly rated rigs charge more of a premium with only a partial justified differential in quality.
Another caution is that higher priced RVs lead to higher consumer expectations. But I haven't run into an RV owner yet, no matter how much they paid, that hasn't had problems with their rig. My point is high ratings and high prices don't necessarily shield you from the problems we all tend to have.
Purchasing a full-timing rig is a big decision and we all have our needs, wants, and budgets. I wouldn't let the RV Consumer Group Ratings alone discourage me from buying the rig that fits my circumstances. Nor would I let the RV Consumer Group Ratings alone make my decision for me.
So, as the topic title asks, are the ratings trustworthy? Yes, I think they are. But as the RV industry struggles and goes through various cutbacks and adjustments, the ratings today might not mean much tomorrow.
Just my two cents.
Bigrig said
06:41 AM May 19, 2009
I was going over the material that would be received for a membership price and notice that you also get your choice of 5 ratings reports. What happens is you want 6?
I ordered one of these single reports to test drive so to speak and it was very helpful and detailed. My questions is doesn't the CD have all the information contained in a single report and more?
Or do they leave off certain aspects of interest and the only way to get this information is to purchase a single report rating?
-- Edited by Bigrig on Tuesday 19th of May 2009 06:42:12 AM
-- Edited by Bigrig on Tuesday 19th of May 2009 06:42:35 AM
gypsy97 said
08:05 AM May 19, 2009
I couldn't say about the single reports because I didn't order any. I believe the info given in the big pkg is sufficient, but it doesn't go into detailed pros and cons for each make/model. The book, however, tells you what to look for, so you still have to do a lot of looking and a ton of research and comparing, probably because we're all different and there is no one RV that will suit us all. You can learn a lot by reading the forums and blogs of RVers - there are complaints as well as praise that you can pick up when they talk about their rigs, taking them in for service, the maintenance they perform, etc. I think you can run into problems with even the highest rated, most expensive and fanciest of the rigs. If you narrow your search down to a few RV's, just ask the person who owns a similar make/model - we usually list our RV description along with signature - and you will find that we all love to talk about our RV's and will give you the good and bad points.
Does anyone have experience with RV Consumer Group Ratings? At $139 it seems a bit salty but if they are trustworthy, it would be worth it. Any & all feedback would be appreciated - thanks.
Bob & Carrie
Wannabe's / Gonnabe's
Good luck, there a lot of bargains out there.
gypsy
As many have said, even though the Guide seems pricey, you will come out ahead in the money it can save you by showing you how to buy right the first time.
gypsy
I went back and re-read some things and you stated
"even better than the ratings themselves, was the book that tells you all the things to look for in a well built RV."
By that I take it you mean the book on How to Select, Inspect and Buy by Gallant?
gypsy
However, the CD is not easy to use. The RV consumer group needs to upgrade to a better format.
You are not allowed to re-sell them.
First, there are lots and lots of RVers full-timing in lower rated RVs that are perfectly happy. Conversely, there are RVers full-timing in the highest rated RVs that are terribly disappointed.
RV Consumer Group is about the best source we have for RV ratings, so I agree that their package is worth the price based on what I know. But I would caution, as others have, to use it as a tool and not the "be all, end all".
Usually, the highest rated rigs should have the highest prices due to superior construction costs. However, in doing some comparisions, sometimes the pricing does not reflect true value. In other words, sometimes the highly rated rigs charge more of a premium with only a partial justified differential in quality.
Another caution is that higher priced RVs lead to higher consumer expectations. But I haven't run into an RV owner yet, no matter how much they paid, that hasn't had problems with their rig. My point is high ratings and high prices don't necessarily shield you from the problems we all tend to have.
Purchasing a full-timing rig is a big decision and we all have our needs, wants, and budgets. I wouldn't let the RV Consumer Group Ratings alone discourage me from buying the rig that fits my circumstances. Nor would I let the RV Consumer Group Ratings alone make my decision for me.
So, as the topic title asks, are the ratings trustworthy? Yes, I think they are. But as the RV industry struggles and goes through various cutbacks and adjustments, the ratings today might not mean much tomorrow.
Just my two cents.
I was going over the material that would be received for a membership price and notice that you also get your choice of 5 ratings reports. What happens is you want 6?
I ordered one of these single reports to test drive so to speak and it was very helpful and detailed. My questions is doesn't the CD have all the information contained in a single report and more?
Or do they leave off certain aspects of interest and the only way to get this information is to purchase a single report rating?
-- Edited by Bigrig on Tuesday 19th of May 2009 06:42:12 AM
-- Edited by Bigrig on Tuesday 19th of May 2009 06:42:35 AM